Was Ray Franz on the NWT committee? Is it true that Fred Franz did most of the translation work himself, or did he have "scholarly" help by capable people? Were any of you there? This claim that no Greek or Hebrew scholars worked on the NWT is nothing but conjecture.
Posts by Cygnus
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28New World Translation Vs. Kingdom Interlinear Translation ... your thoughts
by Ianone in8: 58 footnote 1985 ed kit blue (01).
8: 58 footnote 1969 ed kit purple (02).
jesus, himself tells us just how important it is.
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The Trinity!
by ((Omega)) ini have done some research on the truth regarding the godhead and who the god of the bible truly is.
i have studied all the denominations of christianity, those who deny the deity of christ, and those who don't, those who believe in a trinity and those who do not.
after years upon years of diligent studies i have concluded:.
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Cygnus
Interlinears are good for little else than an intermediate study of Greek. It amazes me that the John 1:1 "difference" between the NWT and the KIT is still so championed by trinitarians. I have questioned many a teacher of trinitarianism and found them to be absolute nincompoops or outright liars.
Given that the trinity has its own self-inherent logic, it has certain value. However, Greg Stafford's JW apologetic book(s) do (does) an excellent job determing the meanings (yes plural) of passages such as John 1:1, John 20:28, John 8:58, et al. Get his book or find his online debates. If I were to believe in Jesus again I would be a non-trinitarian Catholic and lean towards the concept that Christ had his origin at birth. But the whole story is so full of holes it's impossibly difficult (at this stage in my spiritual journey) to accept any of it.
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Cindi Lauper
by Cygnus in.
she's like 50 or 51 now, but when "girls just wanna have fun" came out, as a red blooded teenage boy i was totally in love.. just thought you all needed to know.
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Cygnus
Dude, you feel old. I have a few Twisted Sister videos that I downloaded. I am about as old as the father they abused mercilessly. :(
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Cindi Lauper
by Cygnus in.
she's like 50 or 51 now, but when "girls just wanna have fun" came out, as a red blooded teenage boy i was totally in love.. just thought you all needed to know.
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Cygnus
Michael Stipe... one of the most overrated singers of all time (along with Bono). But at least he's bald like me. One show here in Buffalo he had his lyrics on a stand in front of him. Kinda lame if you ask me.
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Cindi Lauper
by Cygnus in.
she's like 50 or 51 now, but when "girls just wanna have fun" came out, as a red blooded teenage boy i was totally in love.. just thought you all needed to know.
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Cygnus
I think it 1987 or 1988 my thoughts and dreams revolved around Lita Ford.
Oh my dear god, how could I forget Nancy Wilson of Heart! Their music was terrible in the 80s but she looked so ... good.
Dee Snider also recently turned 50... but I never had a crush on... him.
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Cindi Lauper
by Cygnus in.
she's like 50 or 51 now, but when "girls just wanna have fun" came out, as a red blooded teenage boy i was totally in love.. just thought you all needed to know.
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Cygnus
She's like 50 or 51 now, but when "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" came out, as a red blooded teenage boy I was totally in love.
Just thought you all needed to know.
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Can The Watchtower Society Be Reformed?
by Cameron in.
what about www.jwreform.org ?.
don at www.captivesofaconcept.com
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Cygnus
It's already being reformed, from the ground up. Most Witnesses are either children of Witness parents or have been converted in the last 15 years and they hear the same shit from the platform but don't really believe it and do their own thing as their human consciences dictate. It's a much different religion than it was 30 years ago and it has nothing to do with the GB or the literature. My opinion based on what I've observed. I'd have more to say but I'm tired and it's bedtime.
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Ebay
by jeanniebeanz inrecently i got a really nice collection of 15 first edition hardbound serendipity childrens books by stephen cosgrove for $23.00.
absolutely mint condition, i was thrilled.. what bargains have you all gotten?
what treasures?.
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Cygnus
I've been ripped off twice on ebay but otherwise it has been a good experience. One jerk emailed me about a hundred times when what I sent him was exactly as described and I lost my money and he got to keep the item. He even left me my first negative feedback and I've amassed 427 positive feedbacks. It's overall a good thing. And, a word of advice, if you can get a Kingdom Interlinear, they sell for 25-30 dollars easy.
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It was surreal. Your impressions of the "Monthly Awake!" service meeting?
by ezekiel3 inat our service meeting the conductor of "more emphasis on the bible!
" (the march kingdom ministry article discussing the monthly awake!
) routinely asked the questions, comments were read from the paragraph and there was a rediculous emphasis on the scriptures cited, even to the point that wt references were given that had nothing to do with the subject.
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Cygnus
I downloaded the Kingdom Melodies in the orchestra format a couple of years ago, some of them anyway. If somebody wants a copy I'll burn it and just reimburse me for the shipping charges and envelope (send me a PM).
Edited to add: They really did a wonderful job of "Myriads of Brothers", especially the rousing conclusion.
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New World Translation Vs. Kingdom Interlinear Translation ... your thoughts
by Ianone in8: 58 footnote 1985 ed kit blue (01).
8: 58 footnote 1969 ed kit purple (02).
jesus, himself tells us just how important it is.
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Cygnus
The posting demonstrates gross lack of knowledge on this topic. Instead of having an answer buried on this boad, I refer one to Greg Stafford books which make excellent defenses of the New World Translation. JWs can be criticized for many things. Their Bible is the least of such criticisms. (BTY, has any anti-NWT ever actually read the appendix to the NWT?)
Edited to add, the original poster commented: " They firmly believe this although their New World Translation was done without any Greek or Hebrew scholars."
Exacty how do you know this is true? From one man's account (Mr. Raymond Franz) who took no part in the committee and work in preparing this translation? You (and your ilk, the anti-JW born-again NWT-is-garbage crowd) make so many unfounded accusations against JW theology I wish I had a nickel for each misinformed posting. Also, you obviously copied that work from some anti-JW site. Give "credit" where "credit" is due.