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  Doctors Should Not Be Forced To Artificially Inseminate Lesbians

  by Sam Beli in

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  ann arbor, mi the thomas more law center, a national public interest law firm based .

  in ann arbor, michigan, has submitted a friend of the court brief supporting the right of .

  physicians to refuse to perform medical procedures that violate their sincerely held religious .

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  rowan

  As a physician myself, I reserve the right not to administer treatments that, to say the least, make me uncomfortable.

  for example, even though I am not totally against abortion (I believe it should be legal, so unescrupulous individuals don't get rich thanks to the black market and girls get killed due to substandard treatment) I would never perform one myself. It is not because of religious beliefs, it is simply something I am not comfortable with on a human basis. I will make sure though that the patient in question meets with another physician who can administer the treatment she needs.

  Sometimes Drs. do not feel comfortable treating a certain patient; countertransference happens daily. In these cases, I remind myself of my rule number 1 in medicine: "the patient comes first" : it is in the best interest of the patient that that Dr. does not see him/her, but another physician.

  In this case, the woman got the treatment she needed. If there had been NO OTHER professional available to perform the treatment, that would have been a breach of ethics to MHO, but treatment was readily available from another source.

  Respectfully,

  Rowan
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  Most annoying Kingdom song

  by Billzfan23 in

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  mine would have to be "dark days are here!

  men live in fear!....

  " followed by the annoying change to a happy beat before the chorus "but the bible gives us a reason for cheer.." .

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  the one that says something among the lines of "watch how we walk, watch how we talk". ggggrrrrrrrr. idiotic.
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  Does The Memorial Mean ANYTHING To You???

  by minimus in

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  just wondering.

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  rowan

  guiltrips from my parents UFTA
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  Definition of Forgiveness

  by Gerard in

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  as many of you, i am angry at the watchtower for their deceptions and damage it has caused to my wife's family and i harbor negative feelings that actually work against my healthy state of mind.

  i can't forget but i want to forgive.

  but what is the kind of forgiveness that will make me a better person?.

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  I like the example that says that not forgiving is like renting out space of your mind for free. I don't want to keep hurting because they do not deserve mental space from me. But I like undermining them. It is healthy for me and for the people I inform.

  The WT is evil. It is our duty to educate unaware members of the society of its dangers. I cannot fight the WT with the weapons they have, money and mass propaganda production. If I tried to, it would be very frustrating. What I have is access to the people I know, may be 200 people? I can assure you they know my story, and repeat it to the four winds.

  I don't want to hate the WT, not good for my health, but I will certainly cheer when I see it crumble.
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  As A Former Witness, Do You Still Carry Your Watchtower Cross?

  by The wanderer in

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  <!-- .style2 { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 17px; color: #000066; } .style3 {font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; } .style5 {color: #ff0000} .style7 {color: #000080} .style9 {font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; color: #000080; font-size: 16px;} --> as a former witness, do you still carry your watchtower cross?haunted by old memories, flashbacks and miserable personal experiences .

  several individuals on this discussion board still carry the watchtower cross .

  on their backs.. the time to move forward and the time to move on true, the watchtower experiences were earth-shattering events in most of our lives.

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  I have been out of the WT or 6 years now. I got a degree, got married to a wonderful "wordly" man, have a great job, and freedom to do with my time whatever I want to. if 10 years ago somebody had told me that my life would be this "great" now, I wouln't have believed them.

  All this said, last week I got diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder due to my experiences with the WT. As much as I kick and scream in denial of the fact, I am damaged. I choose to live my life fully, not to be defined by my pain, but I hurt inside. Is this my cross to carry? I don't know. As I said, I choose not be defined by my traumatic past, I want to get over the WT issues. I hope it will happen some day.

  Now, if doing everything that is in my power to erode the WT defines me: Yes!!! I am proudly a former JW!
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  My wife "Rowan" needs of your support too.

  by Gerard in

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  my wife 'rowan' was born and raised a jw, her father being an elder -a very gentle loving person, but an elder.. some years ago, she was betrayed by a close friend, subjected to a jc and was disfellowshiped & shunned.

  the proceeding was completely void of mercy and love, it was much like a violation, a rape.

  finding herself df'd was of course terrifying, but the most disapointing outcome was that her father sided with the elders.. eventually she discovered through select books, articles and this board about the fear-driven mind control ways of her religion.

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  Oh dear all, your response is overwheming, thank you all SO MUCH for supporting me in this way. well, you do know what it means to me and it makes me even more grateful.

  I am in a psychiatric ward right now. My parents don't know, they would get distressed and blame it on my "leaving the truth". How wonderful it is to be part of an online, ongoing supporting community. I feel lucky that I live in these times and have all these resources that allow us to communicate. you are my friends now, and how amazing is the love that is freely given to another human being, just because.

  I am taking my time reading each of your posts. every one is precius to me and helps me in my recovery. My brain is not functioning very well, so I am going slowly.

  Gerry, I love you. I can't count how many times this guy has literally saved my life.

  Finally, please excuse my addled brain, one of you said in a post something along the lines "I wish I could get these experiences and pain removed from my head". That's how I feel, so much anger and pain, bottled up. I have to learn to let go. Today in session they quoted: "Forgiveness is the release of all hope for a better past". and I want to forgive, or better said, let go.

  Thank you for the links, I will be reading that material too.

  love,

  Rowan
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  My wife "Rowan" needs of your support too.

  by Gerard in

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  my wife 'rowan' was born and raised a jw, her father being an elder -a very gentle loving person, but an elder.. some years ago, she was betrayed by a close friend, subjected to a jc and was disfellowshiped & shunned.

  the proceeding was completely void of mercy and love, it was much like a violation, a rape.

  finding herself df'd was of course terrifying, but the most disapointing outcome was that her father sided with the elders.. eventually she discovered through select books, articles and this board about the fear-driven mind control ways of her religion.

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  thank you Gerry for posting this, and thank you all friends who are on the other side, underestanding what is going on.

  This morning I was diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder. My confort zone all these years has been to numb my feelings and immerse myself in work. It is awkward and painful to face all these issues, another symptom of PTSD, and ironically a treatment in itself. I always related PTSD with war and plane crashes, I guess, Tall Penguin, that it might not be so rare among ex members of cults.

  Thank you so much for being on the other side. Gerry is a saint to put up with me. He also needs a lot of support right now. Thank you Tall Penguin for your PMs to Gerry, they are full of good insight.

  Rowan
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  I Lost Everything Today

  by compound complex in

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  dear friends,.

  i just received a call from a concerned jw friend about what is going on behind my back.

  a dfd friend whom i've been supporting through his mental distress and suicidal tendencies has done me a very strange turn.

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  deny, deny, deny. this is a DF person. sadly, from the borg point of view, that's lower than mildew. are you in good standing? be a major theocratic warrior and tell the elders in a judgedamental high pitched voice : "you know I would never contact a DF person. DF??? ppppfffff. what makes you think I would? I take good care of my spiritual health"

  did you send him handwritten material? was it dated? if, so, claim he/ she forged it.

  and always remember, you tried to do a loving thing.

  I hope this works right for you.

  rowan
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  Can't you feel the love!!!!

  by kerj2leev in

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  got this poem sent to me and wanted to .

  since theres only one day, .

  and this is my day.

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  gee, that was almost caricaturesc.
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  My funny Memorial story...

  by nsrn in

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  i think i told this story last year on here, but it's worth repeating for a good laugh.. my last memorial i attended was with my daughter, who was about 5. i took her and went to please my parents, of course.

  my daughter went to church with me regularly and so i had done the intense 'instructions' enroute about not partaking, etc.

  i got more and more tense as we arrived and got out of the car.

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  jiji that's funny. last time I went to the memorial I felt I was surrounded by pirhanias