nobody here wants to lived in the new earth aka the coming earthly paradise?
nothing in the bible is symbolic, because saying things that are symbolic in the bible, is like calling jehovah a liar, god would not write something like in the bible, then out of no where, it really means something else... example: 144,000, some people said's that's symbolic, lol yea right.... .
anyway it seems like no one here wants to lived in the new earth, my question is why?
Quote "..for the simple fact that i'm not a Witness"
Yeah ok, you just believe everything they do... doesn't make you one of them.. I understand.
You sound like you know as much about the bible as a retarded chior boy at an all girls Catholic school.
nobody here wants to lived in the new earth aka the coming earthly paradise?
nothing in the bible is symbolic, because saying things that are symbolic in the bible, is like calling jehovah a liar, god would not write something like in the bible, then out of no where, it really means something else... example: 144,000, some people said's that's symbolic, lol yea right.... .
anyway it seems like no one here wants to lived in the new earth, my question is why?
Wait a minute.. what could be better than 'farm heaven'. Imagine 'Hee Haw' paradise. Only problem, can't eat animals in farm heaven. Guess we'll have to stick to corn and barley. Oh well, they make for some mighty fine liquor.
nobody here wants to lived in the new earth aka the coming earthly paradise?
nothing in the bible is symbolic, because saying things that are symbolic in the bible, is like calling jehovah a liar, god would not write something like in the bible, then out of no where, it really means something else... example: 144,000, some people said's that's symbolic, lol yea right.... .
anyway it seems like no one here wants to lived in the new earth, my question is why?
Quote "Nothing in the bible is Symbolic, Because saying Things that are symbolic in the bible, is like calling Jehovah a liar, God Would not Write something like in the bible, then Out of no where, it really means something else... Example: 144,000, Some people Said's that's Symbolic, lol yea Right...."
Yeah, I guess God must have 'created' the heavens and earth in six literal days.. right pal.
Sober up.. then talk to us.
james 5:7 states, "exercise patience, therefore, brothers, until the presence of the lord.
the farmer keeps waiting for the precious fruit of the earth, exercising patience over it until he gets the early rain and the late rain.
you too exercise patience; make your hearts firm, because the presence of the lord has drawn close.".
Makes one wonder how Jesus could be 'present' before he arrives LOL.
james 5:7 states, "exercise patience, therefore, brothers, until the presence of the lord.
the farmer keeps waiting for the precious fruit of the earth, exercising patience over it until he gets the early rain and the late rain.
you too exercise patience; make your hearts firm, because the presence of the lord has drawn close.".
Excellent point.
Jesus also said:
"For as lightning that comes from the east is VISIBLE even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man."-Matt 24:27 NIV
Of course the Dubs buy into the 1914 crap hook, line and sinker. Most don't even know the 607BCE date is as counterfiet as a 3 dollar bill.
yesterday i had the chance to visit with reborn and he graciously shared some of his research with me.
out of all the things that he presented one of the most shocking for me was the wts involvment with the un.. i had been previously aware that the wts was registered for 10 years as an ngo.
however they made the claim that they were not aware that one of the requirements of being an ngo was that they needed to publish information that cast a favorable light on the un.
FRUSR8TD,
I can relate to the 'watchtower shield' because I used to be one of those J'dubs. No one could tell me anything critical of the watchtower without the 'shield' going up.
Indoctrination is a bitch. No one could make me see the 'truth' about the watchtower. I actually discovered it myself while browsing the internet and coming accross H20 and other sites.
Hopefully your wife will discover for herself the deception of the watchtower. Unfortunately, it may take some time before this happens. Maybe with your help and others can finally break through one day.
over the past week since i've announced that i was stepping down i have had a few conversations with my family, and against my better judgement i mentioned that i was having doubts.
invariably almost every discussion about the jw religion eventually boils down to the argument that only witnesses are doing this or that.
unfortunately this is a weak part of my debate, i have only been associated with the jw religion so i have very little information on what other religions beleive and practice.
What really makes the whole watchtower house-of-cards fall is their unfounded belief that Jerusalem fell in 607BCE. This is the foundation for their 1914 date and time of Christ invisible return and selection of watchtower, etc.
If you can get a J'dub to do some 'outside' research on the subject, chances are they will start to have serious doubts.
yesterday i had the chance to visit with reborn and he graciously shared some of his research with me.
out of all the things that he presented one of the most shocking for me was the wts involvment with the un.. i had been previously aware that the wts was registered for 10 years as an ngo.
however they made the claim that they were not aware that one of the requirements of being an ngo was that they needed to publish information that cast a favorable light on the un.
FRUSR8TD,
Tell your wife that the 'library excuse' is an outright lie. She can email Dana Loytved, Senior Reference Librarian - UN/SA Reference Desk
United Nations Library, New York, E-mail: [email protected]
Dana posted the following procedure for library access which does NOT require NGO status and has not changed since 1985.
Your wife may contact Dana at the above email if she doesn't believe this.
The procedure for a library pass is the following: the
interested party needs to fill out an application form
and supply a letter of recommendation in support of
the research. If the needed material is not available
in a UN depository library (the list of depository
libraries is posted at:
http://www.un.org/depts/dhl/deplib/countries/), the
application is approved and sent to UN Security. UN
Security checks the application and, if approval is
granted, instructs the Pass Office to issue a library
pas for the applicant.
The issuance of a library pass is independent of NGO
status or any other status. There has been no change
in the library pass policy.
NGO representatives with UN grounds pass do not need
to apply for a library pass since the grounds pass
will allow them to use the UN Library.
Best regards,
Dana Loytved
Senior Reference Librarian
UN/SA Reference Desk
United Nations Library, New York
E-mail: [email protected]
preaching the truth.... .
"listen pal, i know the watchtower ain't perfect, but i ain't about to give up my position as an elder.
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Preaching the truth...
"Listen pal, I know the watchtower ain't perfect, but I ain't about to give up my position as an elder."
hey non_trias_theos, protector of all that's holy, please explain why the watchtower 'slept' with the 'wild beast' united nations for almost ten years and continues to lie about it even now.. watchtower is lying about u.n. involvement.
"our purpose for registering with the department of public information as a nongovernmental organization (ngo) in 1991 was to have access to research material available on health, ecological, and social problems at the united nations library facilities.
we had been using the library for many-years prior to 1991, but in that year it became necessary to register as an ngo to have continued access.
Quote "I think they doing this beaucause they want help from UN, to protect JW in countries wher we are badley treted"
Funny, I thought they would rely on Jehovah to protect His people. Now I see the watchtower for what it is, a harlot and a liar, who seeks help from the 'wild beast' United Nations and turns her back on Jehovah.
