in nigeria, a bus carrying mostly jehovah's witness women, collided with a large truck on a return trip from a wedding ceremony.
24 died; doctors at a hospital are trying to save 13 others.
see "nigeria: road accident claims 24 in abia.".
The victims were mostly women and members of Jehovah's Witnesses from Aba who went to Isuikwuato to attend a traditional marriage ceremony involving one of their members.
How very sad that what was to be a supremely joyous day turned into such a tragedy.
this week begins a very special feature of wt comments.. the visiting speakers.
check in on thanksgiving for this week's lesson, deliverance from the traps of the birdcatcher.
conducted by our very own minimus.. .
V, I have nothing to square with you or anybody else about this, and I didn't suggest that you were guilty of having a hidden agenda: I merely stated it as a matter of experience, with the intent of possibly informing new members as to why the IP addressess were initiated in the first place, and what JWD policy is regarding having multiple accounts.
this week begins a very special feature of wt comments.. the visiting speakers.
check in on thanksgiving for this week's lesson, deliverance from the traps of the birdcatcher.
conducted by our very own minimus.. .
Note the IP address for the original poster:
IP: o3eITcYWj7os4qOi
Note the IP address for the third poster:
IP: o3eITcYWj7os4qOi
Interesting, because having multiple accounts is not an acceptable practice on JWD...and oftentimes is indicative of hidden agendas.
don't ya just hate it when .
you just get your hands all wet washing something and the phone ringsyou just picked up something with both hands and your nose gets itchyyou just get all settled in to do something cosy like watch a movie and you realize you forgot something important that you must do immediatelyyou just sit down for dinner and the phone rings you just started your last load of laundry and turn around to find a pile of things you forgot to addi know there are many many more.
so don't ya just hate it when .
Your wife just mopped the floor and you walk in with your muddy shoes. The part of this I hate is when she beats me with the wet end of the mop!
((JH))<---manly hugs
The day will soon come when my own father passes, and then you can give me some manly hugs back.
My sincerest sympathies,
Craig
ok. i used to believe in creationism even after i left the dubs.
i was a braindead window washer at the time.
i don't believe in creationism now, but i do believe in a creator and that is different.
bluev:
We have no option but to base our understanding only upon events within our experience.
I totally agree.
It is within my experience to know that we are all miracles and all of creation is a profound and magical thing.
Considering your first statement above, I would ask: How exactly can you intrinsically share (prove?) your experience with another human being?
I respectfully submit that your statements are mutually exclusive.
we seem to go thru 'phases' here of 'i'm leaving because the board is changing' threads.
there is certainly a microcosm of social-evolution involved with any structured community, and that evolution may create in certain people a need to 'move on' [though often they are back rather soon after].. my assumption is though - in looking at the past threads and social environment here - that not much has really changed.
there seems to be a flux of energetic change at times.
hs:
it was so obviously a planned attack on AlanF's posting style by those whose noses he had bloodied in the past.
Well, I don't recall that thread in that particular perspective, although at that time, and since, Alan and I had several very spirited discussions off-board along those lines (re: his posting style). We still respectfully agree to disagree in certain respects...though I've found myself gravitating somewhat toward his way of thinking, especially insofar as how to best respond to "certain" posters.
There are so many dimensions to this, I won't even attempt to try to address them comprehensively. But, as just one case-in-point:
A JW comes on board and makes strong assertions right out of the gate, (very probably) expecting to deliver a knock-out blow to doubters and apostates. Four possibilities:
1) The first responses are "You are an idiot and a fool." This will, of course, confirm his/her suspicions about the negative attitude of apostates, and the interaction will (usually) quickly terminate.
2) The first responses are "Hello, and have you considered this or that?"
3) As a result of scenario 2), the JW demonstrates a willingness to intelligently consider the opposing arguments, and the interaction becomes truly a discussion.
4) As a result of scenarion 2), the JW demonstrates an unwillingness to consider opposing arguments, using the WTS as his/her sole authority (not an unlikely possibility), and dismissively ignores the valid and logical points being made by other posters. Eventually, it reaches the point that one feels like one is talking to a fence post (otherwise known as idiot, fool, moron, or dipf**k). In this situation, I can no longer say that I disagree with such a categorization.
Just a couple of thoughts, fwiw.
edit to add: The reason this particular example struck me is that I can speak with some measure of personal experience along these lines. Although I'd been df'd for some years before I first posted on JWD, and even though I knew that I would never again be a JW, I was still permeated with so much of the conditioning and perspective of my upbringing that I didn't even see it in myself. Option 1) above would have totally put me off (as it did when I first visited H2O), and my first post here could well have been my last. Fortunately, I ended up responding as and being "treated" (both on- and off-board), along the lines 2) and 3).
you can be helped, for a fee, to conquer your irrational fears.
there is a lifetime guarantee.
my question is whether the above phobia truly does put an unhealthy number of people into trauma; it is not my fear ... please check this out:.
Remember the Ents, from Tolkien's Lord of the Rings?
My fear is that, at the end of my life, I won't have one very very long Entish word to suggest for my headstone.
In the meantime, I'll settle for "LOL."
we seem to go thru 'phases' here of 'i'm leaving because the board is changing' threads.
there is certainly a microcosm of social-evolution involved with any structured community, and that evolution may create in certain people a need to 'move on' [though often they are back rather soon after].. my assumption is though - in looking at the past threads and social environment here - that not much has really changed.
there seems to be a flux of energetic change at times.
One discussion I will never forget along these lines is http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/15/55016/1.ashx
It literally took my breath away, because I was being forced to face issues which I didn't want to face. And I don't pretend to have fully assimilated all the lessons there to which I was exposed.
But, as it stands today, my feeling is that tolerance can be overdone, as can intolerance. Striking an equilibrium between these two positions has been a struggle for humanity ever since Adam and Eve ("eat the fruit," "no, don't eat the fruit.")
I doubt that a universally satisfactory balance will ever be found, and we will (whether the environment be a discussion board or a coffee house or a Mensa group or a church or a statehouse) continue to struggle, one with another, because that is the nature of our existence.
ok. i used to believe in creationism even after i left the dubs.
i was a braindead window washer at the time.
i don't believe in creationism now, but i do believe in a creator and that is different.
Actually, we are all just figments of Fark's imagination.
