Cool! It worked! LOL
fattire, that was another good find! It didn't occur to me at all that the Pay Attention book would have anything about this subject.
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How does WT treat illegal Mexican immigrant JWs?
by skeeter1 inhow does the wt treat illegal mexicans who are also jehovah's witnesses?
if the mexican was a publisher or pioneer in mexico, does the society allow them to be full, fledged publishers or pioneers here in the united states?
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How does WT treat illegal Mexican immigrant JWs?
by skeeter1 inhow does the wt treat illegal mexicans who are also jehovah's witnesses?
if the mexican was a publisher or pioneer in mexico, does the society allow them to be full, fledged publishers or pioneers here in the united states?
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How does WT treat illegal Mexican immigrant JWs?
by skeeter1 inhow does the wt treat illegal mexicans who are also jehovah's witnesses?
if the mexican was a publisher or pioneer in mexico, does the society allow them to be full, fledged publishers or pioneers here in the united states?
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How does WT treat illegal Mexican immigrant JWs?
by skeeter1 inhow does the wt treat illegal mexicans who are also jehovah's witnesses?
if the mexican was a publisher or pioneer in mexico, does the society allow them to be full, fledged publishers or pioneers here in the united states?
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I'm Fading.... From This Board
by rocketman inas 2004 winds down and my 4th year of association at this board winds down as well, my posting stats accurately reflect a transitition that been going on for me with respect to the jw religion, a process that is quite natural and healthy.
i'm sure that many members have had a similar experience.
here's a rundown of four years here for me: .
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onacruse
Good on ya' rocketman.
However, you miscalculated your annual check-in by a whole 1 hour and 9 minutes.
Please be more prompt the next time! LOL
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How does WT treat illegal Mexican immigrant JWs?
by skeeter1 inhow does the wt treat illegal mexicans who are also jehovah's witnesses?
if the mexican was a publisher or pioneer in mexico, does the society allow them to be full, fledged publishers or pioneers here in the united states?
skeeter
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onacruse
skeeter, you have a p/m.
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How does WT treat illegal Mexican immigrant JWs?
by skeeter1 inhow does the wt treat illegal mexicans who are also jehovah's witnesses?
if the mexican was a publisher or pioneer in mexico, does the society allow them to be full, fledged publishers or pioneers here in the united states?
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onacruse
The BOE letter (re: immigration) specifically references this article in the WT (which I can post! LOL):
*** w73 1/15 pp. 62-63 Questions From Readers ***
? Without compromising one’s position as a Christian, can one take a ‘loyalty oath’?—U.S.A.
Whether a Christian can conscientiously take a certain oath or not depends primarily on the purpose, content or nature of the oath.
Back in the first century C.E., Jesus Christ corrected the Jews for making light, loose and indiscriminate oaths. They swore by heaven, by the earth, by Jerusalem and even by their own heads. But Jesus reproved them, saying: "Just let your word Yes mean Yes, and your No, No; for what is in excess of these is from the wicked one." (Matt. 5:33-37) A worshiper of God should not need to back up every statement by an oath in order to make it more believable.
Under certain circumstances, however, the Mosaic law required oaths. (Ex. 22:10, 11; Num. 5:21, 22; Deut. 21:1-9) And Jesus himself did not object to being put under oath by the Jewish high priest. (Matt. 26:63, 64) So Jesus’ statement about swearing cannot be used as a basis for condemning all oaths. But what kind of oaths may a Christian take without injuring his conscience?
This he must determine for himself by comparing the oath in question with Bible principles. Jesus Christ stated: ‘Pay back Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God.’ (Matt. 22:21) Hence a Christian could not swear to anything that would require him to do things that are contrary to God’s law. But there would be no objection to his taking an oath to ‘uphold or defend’ the provisions of the law that do not stand in opposition to God’s law. The Christian recognizes that his defense and support of Caesar’s law must be within the limitations imposed by God’s Word. He can ‘defend’ the law by word, by his daily conduct and, in legal matters, by his testimony in court. Christians are told: "Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities." (Rom. 13:1) So there would be nothing objectionable to swearing to do something that one is already obligated by God to do.
Many enlightened countries, though, recognize the reasonableness of the Christian’s other obligation, to ‘give to God what belongs to God.’ Thus the Constitution of the United States, as well as that of many other nations, guarantees freedom of religion. It is understood, then, that a Christian is not going to be required to do anything contrary to his religious beliefs and his obligations to God. There is no danger to the country in this provision, because true Christians do not engage in subversion; rather, they strive to be exemplary, law-abiding citizens.
Since a true Christian takes his worship and his relationship with God very seriously, he ought to give careful thought to any oath he is asked to take. He should be convinced in his own mind that the oath will not cause a violation of his conscience or compromise his neutral position as regards the political nations and their controversies. (Compare Romans 14:5.) If, after reasoning on the matter, he finds that he can take a particular oath, he will have to bear his own responsibility. He should always keep in mind his prior obligation to the Supreme Sovereign, Jehovah God, before ever putting himself under any other obligation.
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How does WT treat illegal Mexican immigrant JWs?
by skeeter1 inhow does the wt treat illegal mexicans who are also jehovah's witnesses?
if the mexican was a publisher or pioneer in mexico, does the society allow them to be full, fledged publishers or pioneers here in the united states?
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onacruse
nvr, the BOE letter to which you refer is dated November 6, 1995 (3 pages).
I'll see if I can get somebody to help me out (again!) with getting the scans hosted to a server and posted up here (what I have is a .png file). It's quite an interesting read.
edit to add: Doug Mason helped me the last time, but I hate to burden him, so if anybody else can help out, I'd be glad to forward the files accordingly.
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I have to put our dog down.
by whyamihere inoliver has skin cancer and he is bleeding all over my mom's house.
oliver is suffering so bad and all we can do is hold him now.
later today he will be put down and i don't want to do it.
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onacruse
I got to hold him till the end, it was one of the hardest things I've done, but I couldn't let him go alone.
Same for bikerchic and me. We petted Samba and said our goodbyes, until he closed his eyes for the last time.
I just feel like I've let him down.
We have a picture of Samba on the refrigerator, taken just about an hour before he passed. He'd lost that bright twinkle in his eyes, and he seemed to be saying "I just want to go to sleep." So, we don't feel that we let him down...we feel like we did him a kindness, though a very regretful one. Hopefully you can find a way to feel the same for Oliver.
Every day we touch that picture of Samba, and in it's own little way it makes us feel a little better.
Craig
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We got another doggie!
by onacruse insince samba passed, bikerchic and i have been missing him greatly, and so we got ourselves another doggie.
here's his picture:.
ain't he a cutie?
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onacruse
OUTLAW, quit your bitching. You already have a dog:
