Posts by onacruse

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An Objetive Post

by Victor_E in

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since we cannot experience reality directly but we con only represent it through our

individual filters and five senses i decided to post an objective third position observation about the whole jw phenomena from a martians viewpoint that just landed on earth.

they are a tribe of six million people led by a few old men and their assistants.

As a Martian, you must be very disappointed that the WTS got to these people first and drilled a mind-controlling device into their cerebellums. Your planned invasion of this planet will therefore fail. You should have watched more episodes of the Twilight Zone and Outer Limits. If you had, you would have been prepared for this.

Because of your lack of foresight, the people of earth will now come under control of the galactic empire of God headquartered in the Pleiades.

If you humble yourselves, we may even yet allow you to serve as a Nethinim.

Craig (of the shield-on-nape-of-neck class)

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Someone about to open a can of whoop ass

by LyinEyes in

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oh yeah , the can shall be opened very soon.. we were ratted on for smoking at the dance club a few weeks ago, the dub that did it told our elders and we just said to hell with it all, we don't beleive it is the "truth" anymore and want to disassociate ourselves.

we told the elders that smoking was not the problem, the borg was, the lies, the child abuse, the cover ups, the changes etc.

in fact i dont even smoke now.

onacruse

Yeah, well it's "over," but it still hurts, esp because of the way it's being made to be "over."

My 2 younger brothers were pretty wild for awhile. Middle bro (S) would get youngest bro (J) to do something "bad", then run right to the elders and confess. Happened several times. J couldn't believe that S couldn't keep his stupid trap shut!! Of course, they then both had to do the confessional, and nothing ever happened to either (not even probation). That Mindless Spacecadet will probably escape, too.

Maybe you could both blame your indiscretion on your youth and on being influenced by the bad association with that MS? lol

Hang in there,

Craig (of the non-confessing class)

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Wow YK!

by ISP in

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wow!

yk how mad can you go?.

*** rbi8 mark 13:12 ***.

onacruse

YK said :"...the incredible becomes believable."

The WTS has a patent on that.

My suggestion for YK: Keep It Simple, Stupid.

Here's a clue: love is simple.

Thanks, ISP.

Craig

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Whatever!!

by LuckyLucy in

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what is your favorite one word saying..

onacruse

Valis

Edited by - onacruse on 5 August 2002 2:31:19

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Is The "Light Gets Brighter" Doctrine...

by adonoyechod in

i have often read, been told, and heard by jw's that the light gets brighter and brighter.

i realize that this particular phrase comes from the bible, but i fail to see it's application anywhere in the nt or ot.

at least in the manner in which they explain it.

onacruse

Adonoy, excellent! I can't count the number of times I have myself used Prov 4:18 to explain the "advancing light of new truth." Your post gave me pause for thought about what that verse really means.

"The path of the righteous is like the first gleam of dawn, shining ever brighter till the full light of day." (NIV) The Hebrew word here translated "righteous" is tsadak, and Girdlestone's Synonyms of the Old Testament makes these comments (p. 101): "...tsadak...originally signified to be stiff or straight...In its relative aspect it implies conformity with the line or rule of God's law; in its absolute aspect it is the exhibition of love to God and to one's neighbor, because love is the fulfilling of the law...to act in opposition to the principles of love to God and one's neighbour is to commit injustice..."

So, then, Solomon is essentially saying: One who truly loves God and his fellowman will consistently and progressively treat people with ever increasing love, in demonstration of his righteous desires. This verse essentially has nothing to do at all with analytical doctrine or intellectual comprehension, except insofar as that doctrine and comprehension enable us to more fully effect righteous support of and love for all mankind.

And, as you say, God has never changed His view of love.

Thanks for your thought-provoking post, and welcome to the board, both of you!

Craig

Edited by - onacruse on 4 August 2002 20:45:38

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Nothingness

by gravedancer in

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as one sees the facts of science and learns that evolution is a fact one then begins to look at the collateral effects and circumstances of the human situation and as one of the sojourners who has come down this path i find myself looking at things in a new context.

first the basis of my position is that evolution is true and that the darwinist viewpoint holds true that it is all about survival.

with everything being about survival how do i view the world?

onacruse

"Hope" is the thing with feathers-
That perches in the soul-
And sings the tunes without the words-
And never stops-at all-.
Emily Dickinson

Existence itself does not feel horrible; it feels like an ecstasy, rather, which we have only to be still to experience.
John Updike

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I WIN!!!

by DazedAndConfused in

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i went to the x-jw meet-up tonight.

i almost decided not to go.

boy am i glad i did decide to go.

onacruse

DAC, I went to my first meet-up last month. You are SO right, wonderful to meet folks IRL who have been through the same ringer. Amazing how small this world really is! Just wish I had been able to get to the Seattle fest today, would have been great.

Things are happening, eh?

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Do JW's count BBs and Chat Rooms as Service Time?

by alliwannadoislive in

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out of interest, i've just posted the following at: http://forums.delphiforums.com/flame1/messages which is frequented by a number of active jws.. general discussion - do jehovah's witnesses count time here ?

previous | next from: alliwannado 5:16 am to: all (1 of 1) 465.1 it's a genuine question - do jehovah's witnesses count the time they spend posting on bulletin boards or in chat rooms as service time ?

i guess it completely fits in with the definition of witnessing to non-baptised individuals about jehovah's kingdom.

onacruse

LizardSnot (gotta love that handle), of COURSE Mr. Musto is still a dub. In fact, didn't you notice that he has recently added a veil to his pic? Must mean he is now a newly anointed member of the bride of Christ!!

<<Filling out time slip for informal witnessing, multiplying by number of posters that I just preached to with this post>>

Craig (of the LOL class)

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why do people think jesus died on a cross?

by watermelon in

i have always wonderd why so many people think jesus died on a cross.

ive been brought up to beleive that he died on a stake.

where did it come from about the cross?

onacruse

Mr. Grumpyboots here!! LOL

Watermelon, I didn't mean in any way to diminish the value of your question or to affront you. I was trying to express my thoughts in the 3rd person, as one who has spent literally decades as a JW arguing about various doctrines that I now feel are relatively unimportant insofar as our daily lives and relationships with other people are concerned.

You asked a sincere question, and I apologize if my admittedly emotional response put you off.

Welcome to the board! I look forward to more of your posts.

Sincerely,

Craig (of the foot in mouth class)

edited for PS: Toe, of course you are absolutely right that the impalement of Jesus is a central theme of Christian belief. I was using the "stoning" scenario as hyperbole.

Edited by - onacruse on 3 August 2002 17:43:57

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cani get sued by the WT

by knighthawk1981 in

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can i get sued by the watchtower if i write a fictional story about the org?

onacruse

How about this: The GB is really a group of Martians, and the WTS is really a front for pod-carrying aliens as in Invasion of the Body Snatchers?

Conspiracy theories always make for good book sales, and sometimes even a great movie! You could get rich off this, knighthawk!!!