To add to SS, there was a "V" in ancient Hebrew, but it was not denoted by waw (the third consonant in the Tetra). It was denoted by the consonant beth, when used as a labial fricative.
And, no, that's NOT chicken fricassee!
Craig
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JHVH
by meadow77 injust a question .
in no way is this meant argumentativly, but why all the hype over the true name of god being jehovah?
the true hebrew form of the word had no vowels.
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Was I a coward?
by DanTheMan inright before i disassociated myself last march, i sent an email to quite a number of jw's that contained only a link to an "apostate" website that had been instrumental in my seeing the the truth about the wt.. well, nobody responded to it except for one person, a guy who i hadn't had any contact with my last year in.
he started out with "yikes, do you know i'm disfellowshipped?
" he then went on for several paragraphs defending the org, how loving the brothers were when they disfellowshipped him .
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onacruse
imho, dantheman, you're right on track. One of the biggest hurdles in leaving the borg is to REALLY leave the borg. Having a compulsion to defend one's position is characteristic of the kind of thinking that we were drilled to have as JWs, and truly remaking oneself includes discarded that apologetic mindset. In that respect, your description of "he also has icewater running through his veins when it comes to debating/discussing anything" defines EXACTLY the kind of person with whom not to debate.
Like Paul told Timothy: "Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels." (1 Tim 2:23 NIV)
Craig
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Watch your weight
by JH inaround christmas time, people tend to eat too much and gain weight.
do you gain weight easily?
does it get you mad to see some people eat alot and stay slim?
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onacruse
JH, is your pi signature a subliminal attempt to subvert our biochemistry?
LOL @ Mary
Craig (of the 6'-6" 250# cholesterol 140 class)
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I'm so excited!!!
by Vee ini've just found out that my application for volunteering in ghana has been accepted!!
i can't tell you how much i'm really looking forward to this challenge.. i've recently moved to london in the hope that i would be able to pick up some project work in the 3rd world country.
i registered with www.workingabroad.com who fitted out my profile with 80 prospects of ngo's i could apply with, and was successful with applications in mexico, india and ghana.
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onacruse
Congrats, V**
And yes, those years of speech training and study discipline do come in handy. One of the few tangible benefits we can walk away with, eh?
Enjoy your time in Africa, and may all go well with you!
Craig
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JHVH
by meadow77 injust a question .
in no way is this meant argumentativly, but why all the hype over the true name of god being jehovah?
the true hebrew form of the word had no vowels.
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onacruse
Ancient Hebrew, though not having written vowels, had other linguistic mechanisms that enabled the reader to discern the proper pronunciation. For example:
1) There were certain "vowel sign consonants": aleph to denote "a", he for "a", yod for "i" or "e", waw for "o" or "u".
2) Also, there were rules regarding syllable construction: The vowel of an open syllable must be long, unless accented (in which case it may be long or short). The vowel of a closed syllable must be short, unless accented (in which case it may or may not be long).
3) And, there are certain letters (e.g. he) that have a decided preference for long vowels.
4) There are rules for which syllable should ordinarily be accented.
[From The Essentials of Biblical Hebrew (Yates & Owens)]
All this being considered, the most likely pronunciation was yah-weh. But, as with all rules of language, there are always exceptions. Hebrew is like any other living language and the pronunciations and alphabets changed over the decades and centuries.
Craig
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Optical Illusions
by JH inhere are a few optical illusions below.
how many black dots do you see in this picture.
next optical illusion, try to find 9 faces in this picture.
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onacruse
JH: Ever seen the book Magic Eye? Based on 3-D computer image-rendering that requires focusing one eye at a point in the image and the other eye to point at the same point in the next pattern...and hold. After a few seconds delay, the brain sorts out the combined images and sees an altogether different picture. So cool it's scary. Somewhat like crossing your eyes.
<-----looking at Farkel with crossed eyes, and digging out old SAT test.
Craig
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I"m Getting too old for this!
by els ini just worked a 10 hr shift at the restaurant.
didn't even get a break and had to work by myself tonight.
i am soooo tired and sore.
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onacruse
Good Lord, Beans...get a room, rent a "movie," or sumpin. LOL
els, how I remember being able to work 16 hour days no prob, and pulling down 30-hr marathons here and there (in construction). Too bad I didn't save any of that money for the retirement I would never need because Armageddon was going to rescue me from Social Security.
Craig
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JGnat's Comments on December 1 Study
by jgnat inwt october 15, 2002 study article for december 1, "oppose the devil".
"oppose the devil and he will flee from you" james 4:7. it is necessary for apocalypse watchers to observe a steady decline of the world we live in.
eagerly waiting for the death to this world, they see every disaster, massacre, war, and new weapon of destruction as one more nail in the coffin.
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onacruse
((jgnat)) You know how much I enjoy chatting with you and respect your opinions. Your thread here has a lot to offer, but...
I freely admit to a "weakness" on my part. I find it very difficult to read, or post, much more than a paragraph or two. Not an attention span thing, more of "how much can I intelligently digest from or productively offer in each post?"
For example, your observation "I sense a persecution complex setting in...." speaks volumes, and from a sociological and historical perspective would merit an entire thread of its own.
Maybe I'm just getting lame?
Craig
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Reach for God
by donkey inwhy do humans search and/or reach for god?.
if they are honest with themselves it is because have a fear or death or of non-existence.
or they draw "power" from god.
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onacruse
Personally, I now find considerable merit in the sociological/anthropological explanations about the search for God and development of religions. Some thoughts from Religion in Sociological Perspective (Keith Roberts, Dorsey Press, 1984):
"Why is religion universal? Since giving up the search for origins, social scientists [Durkheim, Malinowski, Radcliffe-Brown, etc] have focused on the function of religion. The term function refers to the human and societal needs that are satisfied by a particular social pattern or belief...all basic human needs or drives must be satisfied in a way that does not cause social chaos [cites sexual behaviour as an example]...Durkheim maintained that God stands in the same relationship to worshipers as does a society to its members...God transcends the individual in power and scope...Similarly, society transcends the individual in power, scope, and longevity...A thoroughly socialized person is one who wants to do that which is necessary for the society to survive."
Notice that one could here substitute Society (as in Watchtower) for "society."
Just a thought.
Craig
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Beast feast
by RubyTuesday insome of our relatives dropped in unexpectedly for thanksgiving dinner.
i thought for sure we didn't give them our new address!!
sedited by - rubytuesday on 30 november 2002 11:43:41.
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onacruse
RT, how did you get that pic of a committee meeting? LOL
Craig