Posts by D8TA

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The Show of Over-Patriotism Astounds Me

by D8TA in

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while you watch your britney spears videos...your freedom is being taken away.. while you cheer for your nba team and drink that beer...your freedom is being taken away.. while you watch cnn/msnbc/foxnews reports about laci peterson and shuttle disasters....your freedom is being taken away.. while you see one of the greatest misdirections about "condition orange" blinking on your sets....your freedom is being taken away.. while you hoot-n-holler for going to war with saddam hussien...your freedom is being taken away.. while you turn on your computer to surf the internet...your freedom is being taken away.. while you worry about what sports car to buy...your freedom is being taken away.. while you sit in your home with the heat on, enjoying 3 sqaures a day...your freedom is being taken away.. while you worry about your next job promotion...your freedom is being taken away.. while you are being suckered by the greatest sham from the u.s. government...your freedom is being taken away.. it's amazing, that very few here realize what the patriot act and dept.

of homeland defense represents....and what is now in place.

for the rest who don't know...you have my pity.

D8TA

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The most romantic act ever done for you?

by zenpunk in

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friends

well valentine's day is almost here...but the most romantic thing my husband ever did for me came a few days earlier - on my birthday.. this is the very first birthday i am openly celebrating since leaving so he took me to my favorite restaurant sat.

night.

as we were walking in, i said, "someday i would love a big birthday party with all my family" (sans jw parents of course).

D8TA

Somebody wrote me a Japanese Essay! Somebody wrote me a Japanese Essay! And 2 days before Valentines Day!

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The Show of Over-Patriotism Astounds Me

by D8TA in

jw
friends

while you watch your britney spears videos...your freedom is being taken away.. while you cheer for your nba team and drink that beer...your freedom is being taken away.. while you watch cnn/msnbc/foxnews reports about laci peterson and shuttle disasters....your freedom is being taken away.. while you see one of the greatest misdirections about "condition orange" blinking on your sets....your freedom is being taken away.. while you hoot-n-holler for going to war with saddam hussien...your freedom is being taken away.. while you turn on your computer to surf the internet...your freedom is being taken away.. while you worry about what sports car to buy...your freedom is being taken away.. while you sit in your home with the heat on, enjoying 3 sqaures a day...your freedom is being taken away.. while you worry about your next job promotion...your freedom is being taken away.. while you are being suckered by the greatest sham from the u.s. government...your freedom is being taken away.. it's amazing, that very few here realize what the patriot act and dept.

of homeland defense represents....and what is now in place.

for the rest who don't know...you have my pity.

D8TA

I find it quite ironic that I'm not attacking you for attacking me and drawing blood by calling me a moron. Usually, I just respond in kind. Not this time.

I guess I feel sorry for you.

Is that it? That's all you can come up with?

Where's your evidence and argument, where's your material presented? Where are your links? Newspaper references? Testimonies? What have you (or the people that have tried to counter what I've presented) done to present that indeed, what I'm saying here is in error or incorrect?

Show us.

Show the board (show me), where the Patriot Act is not being abused by Federal/Local authorities on common American citizens.

I've presented material in which it does, and I've presented links to people who have fallen in the wake of abuse.

Where are the counter claims? Show us where it's NOT happening?

Boy, if this was about the WTBTS...We surely would see the might of material presented to counter what I've presented, wouldn't we? But here we have the U.S. Government now in question, here we have various forms of law enforcement in question....where's the rebutal? Where are the links and resources in which show what I've presented here to be in question?

I've seen somebody so far, post just the Patriot Act, but didn't say whether it was being abused or not. I can post the Constitution too, and say "hey, it has the oversite of the Judicial branch". Doesn't show that it hasn't been abused.

Where's the meat? I just see a lot of patriotism and flag waving, and talk about Saddam Hussien or something else.

Crimeny, I even tried to be as arrogant and be an asshole to the extreme, to at least motivate people to prove me wrong for the sake of proving me wrong. What has come so far? Nothing. Absolute nothing.

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The Show of Over-Patriotism Astounds Me

by D8TA in

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friends

while you watch your britney spears videos...your freedom is being taken away.. while you cheer for your nba team and drink that beer...your freedom is being taken away.. while you watch cnn/msnbc/foxnews reports about laci peterson and shuttle disasters....your freedom is being taken away.. while you see one of the greatest misdirections about "condition orange" blinking on your sets....your freedom is being taken away.. while you hoot-n-holler for going to war with saddam hussien...your freedom is being taken away.. while you turn on your computer to surf the internet...your freedom is being taken away.. while you worry about what sports car to buy...your freedom is being taken away.. while you sit in your home with the heat on, enjoying 3 sqaures a day...your freedom is being taken away.. while you worry about your next job promotion...your freedom is being taken away.. while you are being suckered by the greatest sham from the u.s. government...your freedom is being taken away.. it's amazing, that very few here realize what the patriot act and dept.

of homeland defense represents....and what is now in place.

for the rest who don't know...you have my pity.

D8TA

* stands up, claps for the fine speech.... *

In which has NOTHING to do with what I've discussed here. I am talking about the Patriot Act and Dept. of Defense and how it effects the citizens of the U.S. of A. and the abuses of such.

Now, for a 50 year old moron...this is evident enough.

Would you like it spelled out for you...yet again?

This is not about Saddamn Hussien.

This is not about Terrorists.

This not about Pollyanna's Shoe Color

This is not about experience.

The links in which I provided, DO SHOW that; since the enactment of the Patriot Act, there have been Local and Federal authorities targeting U.S. citizens. FACT! This isn't allegation. This isn't speculation. This isn't wishful thinking. These events have happened.

Can you disprove this? NO? Well sit down, shut the hell up, and learn something, you stubborn old bastard.

If you can disprove, other then using your dumb ass "I'm 50 years old, how old are you" argument, then please present evidence that this abuse ( rights/freedoms) are NOT being compromised and my linked events had NOT happened...then DO IT.

Prove what I've presented here WRONG. Show me, show this board, that indeed...not any of this is happening. Show that those protestors weren't arrested. Show that those police didn't invade that home. Show that gentleman in Texas wasn't detained and denied legal service. Show that Students at WWU have not been unfairly targeted in investigations. THOSE HAPPENED IN DIRECT ASSOCIATION DUE TO THE PATRIOT ACT. FACT. FACT. FACT. FACT.

I don't give a hoot-n-holer about what is going on in Iraq, or with Suddam Hussien, or with AL-Queada, and/or Osama Bin Laden. This is about what is going on in the U.S. of A.

Now, if you wish to express that: Yes, compromising and conceeding on issues (such as the people in the provided links have experienced) of free speech, right to privacy, due process, etc. etc. is something that should be done...then just say it!

If you can't handle that, don't go jumping down on me about being "speculative" and having "wishful thinking".

Your head is so stuck up your ass about Saddam Hussien, you can't even take it out to see this has NOTHING to do with what I'm discussing here.

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I'm astounded by the UNDER-PATRIOTISM Displayed

by Yerusalyim in

yep,.

it boggles my mind, so many here would rather believe saddam hussein than their own government.

so many here seem certain the bush administration is lying, but trust hussein to tell the truth.

D8TA

Let me guess... He wants the oil.

Let me guess...you put words in people mouths.

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I'm astounded by the UNDER-PATRIOTISM Displayed

by Yerusalyim in

yep,.

it boggles my mind, so many here would rather believe saddam hussein than their own government.

so many here seem certain the bush administration is lying, but trust hussein to tell the truth.

D8TA

Celia

Why not send a commando, or whatever you call these special fighters, that would find Saddam Hussein and his closest followers and generals and take them out, kill them if they must, or take them out of the country.

Your heart is in the right place, child of peace.

Unfortunately, this isn't a plausible solution. Contrary to Hollywood style perceptions, this type of operation is very difficult to do, especially when Saddam Hussien and his buddies are well aware of this type of action. You have to get the special forces in, locate the objective, and neautralize and then get out. With the entire nation of Iraq on alert, and the difficulty with tracking Saddam's movements...the operation would be a greater risk for those involved, then achieving the potential outcome.

You must also take in to account, that it just doesn't stop with Saddam. You have to locate supporters...the next in line to take the reigns of power.

With ground troops, you can secure the country, and keep the opposition localized and contained when you reach your final objective. The unfortunate outcome in all this, is the civilian casualties that are involved.

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I'm astounded by the UNDER-PATRIOTISM Displayed

by Yerusalyim in

yep,.

it boggles my mind, so many here would rather believe saddam hussein than their own government.

so many here seem certain the bush administration is lying, but trust hussein to tell the truth.

D8TA

if the "name callers" are ignorant, what does that make you, considering the quantity of personal attacks youve tossed around on this thread alone?

Have I ever denied my arrogance and hypocrisy? Go figure.

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The "Why" of it all, as to my positio...

by D8TA in

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the reason i am exposing this board with the information that i have provided, is that some have already and will experience situations in their lives as to what i have been talking about.

they will start posting, and already, i see people beginning to hop on their ass (e-mail and business shipments and civic projects).

now, when this starts happening...and it comes to those people being cruel to such posters...i will unleash a holy hell of "i told you so, go cry somewhere else" when it finally comes round to such airheads and nitwits (or their families) who harass such posters.. there are going to be some suprising situations that are going to be posted by joe & jane q. of this board, and they will need your support.

D8TA

What makes sunshine?

OrbitingTheSun.

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The "Why" of it all, as to my positio...

by D8TA in

jw
friends

the reason i am exposing this board with the information that i have provided, is that some have already and will experience situations in their lives as to what i have been talking about.

they will start posting, and already, i see people beginning to hop on their ass (e-mail and business shipments and civic projects).

now, when this starts happening...and it comes to those people being cruel to such posters...i will unleash a holy hell of "i told you so, go cry somewhere else" when it finally comes round to such airheads and nitwits (or their families) who harass such posters.. there are going to be some suprising situations that are going to be posted by joe & jane q. of this board, and they will need your support.

D8TA

"why is the sky blue?"

That's easy, because your sunshine makes it that way.

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The Show of Over-Patriotism Astounds Me

by D8TA in

jw
friends

while you watch your britney spears videos...your freedom is being taken away.. while you cheer for your nba team and drink that beer...your freedom is being taken away.. while you watch cnn/msnbc/foxnews reports about laci peterson and shuttle disasters....your freedom is being taken away.. while you see one of the greatest misdirections about "condition orange" blinking on your sets....your freedom is being taken away.. while you hoot-n-holler for going to war with saddam hussien...your freedom is being taken away.. while you turn on your computer to surf the internet...your freedom is being taken away.. while you worry about what sports car to buy...your freedom is being taken away.. while you sit in your home with the heat on, enjoying 3 sqaures a day...your freedom is being taken away.. while you worry about your next job promotion...your freedom is being taken away.. while you are being suckered by the greatest sham from the u.s. government...your freedom is being taken away.. it's amazing, that very few here realize what the patriot act and dept.

of homeland defense represents....and what is now in place.

for the rest who don't know...you have my pity.

D8TA

how is it the FBI has missed this board and it's anti-American, anti-Bush leanings?

Have they? Remember when I said, "give it time, in a few weeks a poster will sharing their story" about this?

I'm setting the board up, so when people start coming here to share their experiences my friend, that we don't scoff it off. It can roll in your direction one day, and when it does....what are you going to do? Who will you talk to when you need information or resources? Maybe just a shoulder or ear to hear you? What if it's indirect, maybe a relative...your children? What then?

Dakota, I have many contacts in my life. This board is but a "fraction" as to people I walk with. I'm getting e-mails from people in America about their University being targeted, Their Civil Projects being investigated, a whole range of stuff that is blowing my mind. I too, was a person who thought "naw, never will happen". It's beginning to happen. This is just a few raindrops before the storm.

I just hope, that when such incidents affect people's lives on this board, that the rest do not give them a hard time. The world is changing, and we will need what support we can get...even if this is just an internet posting forum.