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How would you tackle the North Korean problem?

by JH in

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if you were the president of the us, would you confront north korea or would you try to make a deal with them to reduce tensions.. north korea warns us: we can produce six atom bombsby rupert cornwell in washington.

16 july 2003 .

the crisis over north korea's nuclear weapons programme deepened yesterday as the north claimed it had made enough plutonium for six atomic bombs, and a former us defence secretary warned that the two countries could be at war by the end of the year.. the latest claim from pyongyang was communicated to the bush administration last week, three months after north korea said it was beginning to reprocess 8,000 spent nuclear fuel rods that were under united nations seal until the un inspectors were ejected from the country at the end of 2002.. us intelligence agencies are now trying to determine whether the boast is true or merely another bluff by the reclusive stalinist regime.. either way, the declaration has pushed the us president a step nearer deciding whether to accede to north korea's demand for direct negotiations - and thus drop his previous insistence that he would never bow to "nuclear blackmail" - or to accelerate plans for a military strike against the north's nuclear installations.. that spectre was raised yesterday by william perry, defence secretary under president clinton, when he told the washington post that the bush administration was "losing control" of the situation.. mr perry is a specialist on korea who helped prepare the military action which mr clinton came close to launching against yongbyon and other key north korean sites in 1994. he now fears that the north is not only close to a nuclear test to show the world it is a nuclear power, but also that it could sell a weapon to a terrorist group for use against the us.. "the nuclear programme now under way in north korea poses an imminent danger of nuclear weapons being detonated in american cities," mr perry said, adding that he had reached that conclusion after talks with bush officials in washington, and with senior figures in china and south korea.. china, reckoned to have the greatest leverage over of kim jong il's renegade state, launched a new effort this week to draw the north into regional talks to defuse the crisis, but mr perry told the washington post that as far as he could see, the "diplomatic track is inconsequential" and going nowhere.. the korean crisis has been largely ignored as washington has focused almost exclusively on iraq.

D8TA

The crisis over North Korea's nuclear weapons programme deepened yesterday as the North claimed it had made enough plutonium for six atomic bombs

OMG...6!!! As opposed to how many fricken dirty bombs in this world held by extremists? I'm quaking in fear. Let Georgie and (I drink to much) Rumsfield handle it....which means more death to people who are either brown or yellow.

US intelligence agencies are now trying to determine whether the boast is true or merely another bluff by the reclusive Stalinist regime.

Oh oh, there's that line again: U.S. intlligence. This article has it's own funny. Again, unconfirmed information as to a "boast" made by a taunting "dictatorship" that doesn't want McDonald's in their land.

Either way, the declaration has pushed the US President a step nearer deciding whether to accede to North Korea's demand for direct negotiations - and thus drop his previous insistence that he would never bow to "nuclear blackmail" - or to accelerate plans for a military strike against the North's nuclear installations.

I'm going to take a guess here: I predict (using the force) a....uh.....MILITARY STRIKE in the near future.

That spectre was raised yesterday by William Perry, Defence Secretary under President Clinton, when he told The Washington Post that the Bush administration was "losing control" of the situation.

Oh oh, when Bush "loses control"....we know what happens next, don't we kiddies? Yep...more brown or yellow people who don't play ball with the U.S. are going to be accused of being "evil rogue nations". More bombs and bullets.

"The nuclear programme now under way in North Korea poses an imminent danger of nuclear weapons being detonated in American cities," Mr Perry said, adding that he had reached that conclusion after talks with Bush officials in Washington, and with senior figures in China and South Korea.

Exactly. Especially after the U.S. experience with Iraq and it's WoMD being "detonated in American cities". * snort snort *

He now fears that the North is not only close to a nuclear test to show the world it is a nuclear power, but also that it could sell a weapon to a terrorist group for use against the US.

Yes, exactly...especially with countries like...China and India that sell them too. God damn it, don't you know that it's ONLY the U.S.'s job on this planet to sell and control weapon sales!!! It's called "capitalism". Where's my Monopoly board...I miss playing the game.

China, reckoned to have the greatest leverage over of Kim Jong Il's renegade state...

"China RECKONED"???? What the hell? The entire population of China has now initiated a Texas accent and usage or words????

The CIA has long suspected that North Korea had one or two nuclear devices...

And I suspect that the CIA is once again....in error. Like the time when it completey missed well-known islamnic extremists enter the country, take aviation classes while being observed, and completey dropping the ball (in concert with other agencies) when such said "extremists and terrorists" flew airplanes in to a few buildings. This is an agency with a very trustworthy reputation and excellent record...*cough* (JFK...JFK...JFK).

Recent atmospheric tests for a gas that is normally given off when used fuel rods ...

Or in my case...I test my gas with a bic lighter...

The best course, says Mr Perry, is "coercive diplomacy" whereby "you have to offer something, but you have to have an iron fist behind your offer." For the moment however, Mr Bush seems unwilling to offer anything at all.

Yes, the solution. I'm sure the Emperor...I mean George Bush Jr. is going to seduce Luke Skywalker...uh er...I mean offer Kim Jong an ultimatium...I mean...OPTION: "Either suck our...Uh...do things the AMERICAN way or will screw you in the...I mean, er...bomb the crap out of your country".

My Solution: There is none. North Korea with develope or want to develope weapons regardless. Much like the U.S. who has them, in a time of crissis there is potential the N. Korea will use and or sell them. But then again? Who has been selling weapons to the world (yes even those capable of MD) and has used such in the past? Yep...I thought so.

It's about WHO controls the arms market, and right now...that's the U.S. They don't want small countries entering the market. That's for China and the U.S. to control right now.

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wow - masturbation lowers risk of prostate cancer

by openminded in

http://www.reuters.com/newsarticle.jhtml?type=healthnews&storyid=3102498

D8TA

In a survey of 1,079 prostate cancer patients and 1,259 healthy men, Giles and his team discovered that men who ejaculated more than five times a week in their 20s were a third less likely to develop an aggressive form of the disease.

Only FIVE times a week????

Hot damn! Looks like I'm in "The really really really low, no really, might as well just say you will never get prostate cancer in your life" group!

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WOMD Google search, try this!

by bittersweet in

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this is funny ( hopefully this will stil bthere if you try this ).

go to google, type in " weapons of mass destruction" and then click on the i feel lucky bar instead of the regular bar.

have fun!

D8TA

I just crapped my pants.

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US Patriotism VS the Rest of the World

by Xena in

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abaddon and i were having a discussion in another thread regarding the differences between us patriotism and european patriotism.

apparently some people consider the us to be peopled with rabid flag waving, my country right or wrong, ugly americans.

i am wondering what the general concensus of this board would be?.

D8TA

As to "American Patriotism", I can only express what my personal views are of U.S. patriotism.

Am I a patriot? Yes. One of the U.S.'s finest.

Oh lookie, look at the red flags going up in some of your minds. D8TA? A PATRIOT???? NO HE ISN'T!

That's the problem, right there, with "American Patriotism". Those with the the thought in mind that I am not a patriot. The current climate of Amerian Patriotism isn't inclusive to people like me. The "free-thinker". The one who recognizes there are more "domestic enemies" than "foreign".

To me, patriotism is constant vigilance over the system of government in which everybody is apart of. Not hanging flags, nor making grand speeches about supporting troops in foreign operations, or hanging yellow ribbons in one’s hair. Patriotism to me, is that one understands that there are people in this world (or the U.S.) that know how a system works and will use the vilest means to exploit it. Even at the expense of people’s rights, freedoms and lives. That you become actively involved with the system…that the system was DESIGNED FOR THE CITIZEN TO BE INVOLVED WITH BEYOND THE BALLOT BOX.

My life, the one outside of being a JW….has never been revealed upon these boards….for these boards are about JW’s and Ex-JW’s….it’s not “let’s share our personal life board”. I’m a private person, and I enjoy that right to keeping my business as MY business. There are a few here who KNOW who I am and KNOW what I’ve done in my life. So before some of you go slamming me, about not knowing what “this or that may be”….all I have to say is, I’ve got plenty of aces of my sleeve….and I love to use them when necessary. I do drop hints from time to time though, and some understand.

Now, as to the general populace of America….yes, you people are ignorant as to the extent of corruption the U.S.A. has, and the effect of such corruption that extends it’s hand and stretches over this globe. Your reach is far and powerful and it does touch (and takes) many lives on this planet.

Did I say, “YOUR”? Yes, I did.

Why?

Because, I…like the rest of the world…. recognizes that YOUR country is a Republic with democratic practices. That YOU Americans VOTE for your government officials and are APART of the political process. Therefore, if such “corruption” exists from such voted officials, it’s the American CITIZEN’S responsibility to correct the problem.

But the majority of you don’t. No…. you don’t.

You know who is out trying to “fix” corruption? Those people you see on the news that are involved with there public political system. Those people you see with signs and organizations that are in constant battle to keep certain processes, rights, and freedoms alive. The ones you call “nuts” and “anti-American”…. the ones you criticize for dressing or looking different from the status quo…. the ones you gawk and cast out from your social circles because they don’t sit at home, drink beer, have a Bar-b-Q and be “good little quiet Americans”.

Soldiers? Yes I respect them. More than any of you could possibly know or imagine. Soldiers are for the foreign front…to keep liberty and freedom alive on the “foreign” front. But there are enemies that reside within your borders that are more cruel and dangerous than any terrorist or Genocidal Dictators…there are more of those enemies posing many fronts on your very own soil…. and they are the ones that are tearing the U.S. down. Even to the point of exploiting the purpose of our military.

Patriotism…. maybe the rest of the world doesn’t have a problem with American Patriotism…. perhaps it’s because of the lack of it, or how misguided it is.

As to having a problem with America? I can see why, and I’ve “lived” why.

The rest of the world isn’t stupid. They don’t take your, “well I voted and now I can have a beer and watch the NHL/NBA/NFL/MLB because I served my country in this or that war” as an excuse as to your “ignorance”. The rest of world does know that YOU, John/Jane Q. America, ARE apart of your political process and system….therefore YOU are accountable for the decisions that AFFECT FOREIGN COUNTRIES!

No, you Americans like to…YES YOU DO…like to tout your so-called patriotism. Here comes the misunderstanding…. the rest of the world is now thinking, “hey…what the hell? You are fucking me in the ass and gloating????”

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, “Wake the HELL UP AMERICA (YOU-COMMON CITIZEN), and take accountability for YOUR government which is; for, from, and by the People”. Start getting involved while you can…start looking to make changes while you can…start recognizing the corruption that's infected the greatest idea (country) on this planet…because the rest of the world that is being affected by your policies and influence is not going to sit around and get it in the ass. And ignorance and laziness as to the process of your government is no excuse when it comes to issues of Imperialism, Corporate Globalism, and Tyranny.

* loads the Jump Program *

Free….Your….Mind…..

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Something for france to think about

by pr_capone in

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D8TA

Problem is?

U.S. has drastically changed since WW 2.

So in essence what Pr_Capone is stating is: Even though the U.S. has changed in to a monster, France still has an obligation to this "new" U.S. because of WW2?

Ah, no. Sorry, doesn't work out that way.

Countries change, for the better and for the worse....now that the U.S. has gone in to "imperilistic" mode, nobody owes them anything. Especially when a "new" U.S. is trying to make the entire world like themselves.

Let's break it down to a simple example:

60 years ago, I was a pretty decent young man. My neighbor and friend's house gets invaded and I take my family to go help defend and liberate his place, even some of my family dies in doing so. That's good right, no problem there. Very noble indeed.

Now it's the present. I've turned in to a greedy sorry son of a bitch and want the entire neighborhood to bend their knee to my will and perception. I've exploited various neighbors and friends for the past 60 years since that liberation, and I've even done some pretty dastardly deeds. I'm also being dishonest with my own household and family. I've taken a turn for the worse.

Now, does my friend owe me something from that event 60 years ago, even though I've turned in to a bully and crook?

Answer: No.

Wake up America, quit this "we are virgins with pristine honey pots, everybody in world 'owes' us and should be greatful because they can't exist without us" perception.

The U.S. can fall, and you know what? The earth will still rotate on it's axis, and the rest of the global community will function and continue just fine with out you.

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SEE THE REAL FACE OF THE WAR IN IRAQ, SEE THE HORROR

by justhuman in

since the media in u.s show nothing about the war in iraq, and bush's administration censor everything that is "bad' for the puplic, here are some shocking photos of how bush is setting free the iraqi people.

similar view of how watchtower's god will treat everyone who disagrees with them in armageddon.

bush does not care about the iraqi people.

D8TA

Div. Reg. Bat. Company Platoon and Squad and his rank. Did I ask for yours ground pounder? When I address you with a question I'll either quote or include your name. As far as "nonsense", you're filled with it drone-boy.

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SEE THE REAL FACE OF THE WAR IN IRAQ, SEE THE HORROR

by justhuman in

since the media in u.s show nothing about the war in iraq, and bush's administration censor everything that is "bad' for the puplic, here are some shocking photos of how bush is setting free the iraqi people.

similar view of how watchtower's god will treat everyone who disagrees with them in armageddon.

bush does not care about the iraqi people.

D8TA

Where were you during that time?? Running your mouth I assume.

Your D.R.B.C.P.S. please?

And your rank.

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SEE THE REAL FACE OF THE WAR IN IRAQ, SEE THE HORROR

by justhuman in

since the media in u.s show nothing about the war in iraq, and bush's administration censor everything that is "bad' for the puplic, here are some shocking photos of how bush is setting free the iraqi people.

similar view of how watchtower's god will treat everyone who disagrees with them in armageddon.

bush does not care about the iraqi people.

D8TA

keep seeing this argument......id appreciate being enlightened on the subject.

For Dubla,

You want enlightenment, then come down here to Brazil and I'd be happy to show you the direct affect of the U.S.’s so called "freedom and liberation" (propaganda in the U.S.). Or I'd be happy to travel to Indonesia and let you experience from the population's eyes and testimony of exactly how western corporate and trade influence has disrupted and made these areas worse off.

You think the people in Iraq will have their "own voice"??? Jesus, are you ignorant. In one day, I'd show you exactly who has a "voice" in that country....just like here in Brazil. Who has the power now? Organized crime. Instead of having one murderous dictator, now they will have hundreds of warring factions...while the U.S. opens it's pretty nice little market places, so the golden arches can be seen on every street corner. All the while, as John & Jane Q. Jones of U.S.A. sit comfortably in their Lazy-Boy recliners and thinking they are doing "good in the world", the government of the U.S. is openly negotiating and recognizing these "organized crime cartels and mafia (yes, Drug Lords too) so that they (the U.S.) may do "business" in their countries. So instead of having 1 Saddam Hussein, you now have 20 to 100 of them.

Come down here, let me show you exactly what "really" goes on, if you are brave enough how about "live what goes on"...and just like those who have come down here, you will leave with an entire "new perception" as to what the affects of U.S. policy is. I guarantee it. I'd be happy to enlighten you.

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rmayer32

Damn good thing you don't live in a place like that or you'd have no limbs left.

What the hell do you know about where I've lived, country boy? Please state the 17 prior countries I've called home in the last 10 years, then state the one's you've "lived and experienced".

In fact, please give us your knowledge and wisdom out of your own grand experience of dealing with nations who have been affected by U.S. foreign policy. Any personal testimonies that you would like to share with the board? Experiences of the average citizen of such nations you wish to convey? How about your dealings with those impovrished or been affected by U.S. bullets and bombs? Tell us of your daily travels in to ghettos, favelas, and ficas of this world...that are directly affected by U.S. trading practices or debt control, or their dealing with the local crime syndicates. Please, do so.

Oh wait, you mean you haven't? You mean, you sit in your chair everyday getting your info from CNN and FoxNews (as they want to SELL you their news)??? Is this the same chair you sit in while you enjoy your favorite football team on Sunday mornings?

There's a difference between knowing the path, and walking the path....many here haven't walked past their own front yard...and rely on their own national news media to supply them with information. You know, the same news media that is brought to you by Budweizer beer, and Ford motor company, and Microsoft.

By the way, I have lived in countries in which they do cut your limbs off. The same ones that the U.S. doesn't recognize, because such countries do not offer any "commercial market frontiers". Or ones that the U.S. does recognize, but wheel and deal with corrupt leaders and organzed crime syndicates.

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For Everyone else.

Look at that picture again. Ask yourself; Why is the child holding only a U.S. flag?

Are not the sons and daughters of England and Spain (and other countries) also fighting in this war? Have they not spilt blood for this so called "liberation and freedom". Would not their flags also represent such symbolism? Then why not wave such flags also. Why is it that Rome...oh sorry...the U.S. always use propaganda that "they-themselves" do everything. (First ignorant fool to say, "because they do everything", better stop posting here and invest in a good college education...and move their ass away from their T.V. sets.)

Makes you think, doesn't it?

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SEE THE REAL FACE OF THE WAR IN IRAQ, SEE THE HORROR

by justhuman in

since the media in u.s show nothing about the war in iraq, and bush's administration censor everything that is "bad' for the puplic, here are some shocking photos of how bush is setting free the iraqi people.

similar view of how watchtower's god will treat everyone who disagrees with them in armageddon.

bush does not care about the iraqi people.

D8TA

Awwwww, isn't that cute?

Another child waving an Amercan flag in her own country, who will grow up completely unaware that her culture and traditions have been raped by the interests of free-markets and corporate interests of the U.S.A.

Isn't just wonderful, that once you beat people in to a form of submission with your bullets and bombs, they begin to "think and act" like you do? Isn't grand that this is how "peace and freedom" is accomplished, by everyone in the world denying their cultural and traditional background so they may wave the Stars and Stripes?

Isn't it ignorant of you to think that this is a way to accomplish peace? That you still sit there and wonder why people fly planes in to your skyscrapers? With the majority of the U.S. populace with their heads stuck in the sand....still....in the next 10 years when these opressed people begin to retaliate(more), I won't be the least bit suprised.

I still wont be suprised when the majority of John/Jane Q. America will say, again, "what did we do? what did we do???".

Pfffft.

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BOMBING IN MY HOOD!!!

by D8TA in

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ministro da justica diz que madrugada de terror foi reacao a prisao de traficante

(minister of justice says that terror (at) dawn was reaction to the arrest of dealer)

http://oglobo.globo.com

D8TA

Ministro da Justiça diz que madrugada de terror foi reação à prisão de traficante

( Minister of Justice says that terror (at) dawn was reaction to the arrest of dealer)

http://oglobo.globo.com

The building known as the Meridian that was bombed early in the morning of March 31st, is about 200 yards from my place. I was up and online when these events happened.

(translation of article--best I could do)

Bandos attacks some quarters of the city Alba Valéria Mendonça - the Globe Cristiane de Cássia - the Globe
CBN

RIVER - the police already arrested three suspects involved in the actions of vandalism that had shocked the city this morning. A couple(meaning more than 2), that according to the policemen of 22º BPM (Benfica), participated in the attacks of buses at Brazil Avenue, was imprisoned in the New Slum quarter Holland. The suspects that had been apprehended had stolen a Twister motorcycle, a pistol 762 and one kilo of cocaine. The occurrence and the inquiries are the position of 21ª DP (Bonsucesso). Much earlier, policemen of the Private Service of 22º BPM had arrested Renato Azevedo Souza, the Xuxa, of 26 years, also accused with participation in the attacks.

Dealer Renato Azevedo confessed to the police to have participated in the attacks. It counted that about 30 criminals, all armed ones, had set on fire two buses and two cars, which close the four lanes of the avenue. According to Xuxa, the action was done for a known criminal named "Moral" Andres, of the Village Cruise, in the Complex of the Penha. Renato said that Andres would have been guided for some integrant one of the Red Command that would be imprisoned, but that it does not know who is.

- We knew that the inauguration of the Battalion of Military Policy of the Tide would occur in briefing and made the tram in retaliation -- Renato counted, mentioning itself it the unit of the p.m. in phase of construction in the place.

However, the commission agent of the police station of Bonsucesso, Reginaldo Guillermo, considered most likely that the attack of the traffic (buses and cars) had been motivated by the arrest on friday of the dealer Jorge Alexander Cândido, “the Shade” of the Rocinha.

During the dawn, outlaws had set on fire bus(es) and planted bombs in three different points of the city: in Bonsucesso, the suburb; in Del Castilho, also in the suburb; e in the Helm, the south zone. A lieutenant of the Military Policy died and one suspect was imprisoned.

The minister of Justice, Márcio Thomaz Bastos, also attributed the attacks to action of organized crime, in retaliation to the arrest of the drug dealing “Shade”, in the Rocinha. Arm-right of Fernandinho Beira-Mar, Shade is accused to sponsor similar attacks with the (drug) control of Beira-Mar in September of the last year and January of this year.

(end of article)

What the article fails to mention (due to censorship) is that a building not more than 200 yards from my place had 2 grenades tossed inside of the lobby...in which the lobby was decimated. The reason as to why this was not reported officially, is because there are still a great deal of tourists in the area (left over from Carnaval) and they wish not to scare them away. Wonderful eh? However they do mention the buses and cars that were torched by these roving drug gangs.