I agree.
I think that second group though is frightened or tired or something. And they will just do their time and follow cult rules until the croak. Content to wait on yhwh.
from my own observations & conversations with selected active j.w.
's, here are my conclusions:.
's are very rapidly falling into two distinct camps -.
I agree.
I think that second group though is frightened or tired or something. And they will just do their time and follow cult rules until the croak. Content to wait on yhwh.
though i now consider myself a secular buddhist, i just realized today that i'm okay with trying to pursue the qualities mentioned by paul as the "fruitage of the spirit.".
the only one i take issue with is "faith" in the context of religion.
what are your thoughts on the matter?.
It's kind of the same way people talk about all morals of the bible. Like the bible was the origin of all morality. I agree they are good to peruse. But like the logical parts of the ten commandments they would be good human qualities if, or if not the bible ever existed. Really the Egyptians did a much better job (and before the bible) of codifying decent behavior.
quote from the watchtower, simplified edition, september 2015, "how can we show that we love jehovah?".
higher education often makes them lose their love for god..
just to give you a bit of background, i've been researching my doubts for over a month, i'm convinced that although they may have some things right, they have a lot of other things horribly wrong.
i'm still clinging to a faith in god, because i see a creator's hand in nature, and i believe in jesus and his teachings, love, mercy, compassion.....that if everyone truly applied these (including jws) then all would benefit.. but i read this article in march and it's been on my mind ever since.
where isis stone a young couple to death for sex before marriage (a bit graphic).. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3017800/sickening-images-blindfolded-bound-couple-brutally-stoned-death-fornication-isis-militants-iraq.html.
You sound like you are on the same path as me when it came to my truly unshackling myself from JW's, also I was agnostic for the same reasons, but over time of learning free from dogma, I realized that because some principles of Jesus were good, they are not exclusive. Many atheists have a love of life that I had to come to understand for myself. Basically they have no religion to die for, but they have everything to live for and when they are moral it's roots go far deeper and truer than doing it for a myth.
Not trying to preach to you, I just feel you are starting this off the same way as myself. I came to an epiphany one day that indeed sexual relations between people (forget forinication and other negative words), Sex, a biological function of people as mammals is obsessed about way too much by abrahamic religions and their followers, where as killing is ok, for many petty things. According to the Jehovah's Witnesses, just for visiting this site, in the days of isreal you too would be buried up to your neck and have your loved ones throw stones at your head until you are dead. Look up apostasy in the insight book.
over the years, i have seen a change in heart with the country i grew up in and the general view of what they perceive as how everyone should view things in relation to morality.
a strictly religious country for centuries now forever changed within a short number of years.
i have also seen the viewpoint on this site gradually change in many ways.
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ron and brenda sutton ................warwick 3 children
it was the missed association with family that brought them back.
hello ya'll.
was just listening to great guitar music from some of my favorites.
who are your all time favorites?
1. Hendrix
2. Page
3. SRV
4. Randy Rohdes
5. Satriani
6. Eric Johnson
7. Michael Hedges
8. Mike McCready
9. Zakk Wylde
10. Travis Meeks
sorry when my mind wanders during indoctrination sessions i come up with this crap.. so i was thinking, when the hebrews wanted a king to be like all the other awesome nations around them, correct me if i am wrong, but god wasn't with it?
that was their idea, and another thing he "allowed".
now typically when man decided to go by their own wisdom against god's direction he'd wash his hands of it and completely step away and let them do it on their own.
Sorry when my mind wanders during indoctrination sessions i come up with this crap.
So I was thinking, when the Hebrews wanted a king to be like all the other awesome nations around them, correct me if I am wrong, but god wasn't with it? Right? That was their idea, and another thing he "allowed". Now typically when man decided to go by their own wisdom against God's direction he'd wash his hands of it and completely step away and let them do it on their own. But in the case of having a king, he seemed pretty well involved no? How does this make sense?
Personally I think this is more proof that the whole OT is so unharmonious but very political and used as propaganda and control for the time when certain things were really written. God: "I don't want you doing this, but since I'm gonna let you do it anyway, I'll anoint the kings ok?" Such rubbish. Now other times he'd be like you are all alone, best of luck. Or even outright aggressive, he didn't sanction it now people have to die.
Silly desert God, he seems to change with the minds of men
page 6 of the september 2015 public wt, under the heading "how is our ministry financed"our work is supported entirely by voluntary donations.
(2 corinthians 9:7) in 1879, the second issue of this magazine stated: zions watch tower [as this magazine was then called] has, we believe jehovah for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support.
we have not wavered from that policy.
Good catch cappy,
This thing they put in their Sept magazine mirrors the oxymoron comment by Lett
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