Welcome back!
I can honestly say that in the congregations I am not alone so we of like minds keep each other company while enduring the misery of the Organization.
this is what i am suspecting is growing daily.
freemindfade
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Returning
by Doubtfully Yours ini was a member of this community a long time ago and have lurked for years.
well, i am back and still thoroughly conflicted, with my heart/loyalties as divided as ever.
please welcome me back, hear me out, and make me feel as welcomed as before.. the wtbts has changed so very much in recent years that i feel trapped in a completely different religion altogether.
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A lot of "forbidden" talk is going on among witnesses
by nevaagain inme and my wife are still "in".
we had the "talk" a couple of times, but shet is not ready to leave yet.
while a couple of years ago she started crying on the thought that i am an "apostate" and even gave me an ultimatum until she would rat me out to the elders (never happened), now i sense that she might is a little bit more open to the the thought to leave one day .... anyway, all out friends and family are still in the truth and whenever we are meeting with other witnesses topic #1 is always the recent changes to the meetings / conventions (reduced to one day) which always lead to the changes to the magazines and the recent lay offs of the special pioneers and bethelites.
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freemindfade
Some people will hang on to those thought blocking things to no end.
"No matter what its god's organization"
When things are great, the big J is blessing things
When they suck he's seeing who will stay loyal
Typical witness behavior to put any criticism in a lose lose situation
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Reading the book of Enoch found some gems.
by Crazyguy infirst off the book of enoch or at least some of it's writings we're found among the dead sea scrolls.
this to me proves that this book was as important to the jews back then as any other.
in the book a few things i noticed.
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Reading the book of Enoch found some gems.
by Crazyguy infirst off the book of enoch or at least some of it's writings we're found among the dead sea scrolls.
this to me proves that this book was as important to the jews back then as any other.
in the book a few things i noticed.
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freemindfade
I've always found this text interesting as well.
This to me proves that this book was as important to the Jews back then as any other.
This plus the book of Enoch is quoted in the bible book of James.
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2 go bags
by johnamos inwill any of you post here if you hear anything in this coming thursday (1-14-16) meeting in regards to 2-go-bags being pushed again...
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freemindfade
And of course on the likely remote off chance some knuckle-head decides to use a natural disaster as an excuse to try to do bodily harm to me or my loved ones, well. .
Any one who has been in an Urban area after a major disaster may change their thoughts on firearms slightly. When the authorities and guidelines of society are taken away, its a very very different world.
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2 go bags
by johnamos inwill any of you post here if you hear anything in this coming thursday (1-14-16) meeting in regards to 2-go-bags being pushed again...
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freemindfade
2-go bag just needs lots of guns and bullets... everything else you will need will come from that lol
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Your Jehovah’s Witness Is Showing
by David_Jay insince i just signed up and posted a few times without doing this yet, here is my story..
i think that i became a jehovahs witness because of my immaturity.
i had some quirky personality traits, and i joined finding that i fit in because, as i said to myself: these people get me.
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freemindfade
I used my best arguments, quoted this and that, and was on a roll until I noticed no one else was chiming in. I think I even stopped in mid-sentence when I realized I was just getting stares and silence, especially from Randall and his family.
Yea these things have their place. I would say as a witness when it came to the preaching part, I was never jumping to debate with people. Now In regular life I don't either. If a witness wanted to come to my door and talk about the flood or some BS I will clearly ridicule them, but that doesn't happen lol.
I do think that in some forums such as a discussion board certain topics will be raised to be debated. But its context, some see it as preachy, some don't. But I agree I have strong idea about things but in day to day life I just don't preach them for the sake of trying to change someone else mind.
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A lot of "forbidden" talk is going on among witnesses
by nevaagain inme and my wife are still "in".
we had the "talk" a couple of times, but shet is not ready to leave yet.
while a couple of years ago she started crying on the thought that i am an "apostate" and even gave me an ultimatum until she would rat me out to the elders (never happened), now i sense that she might is a little bit more open to the the thought to leave one day .... anyway, all out friends and family are still in the truth and whenever we are meeting with other witnesses topic #1 is always the recent changes to the meetings / conventions (reduced to one day) which always lead to the changes to the magazines and the recent lay offs of the special pioneers and bethelites.
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Agreed. I think some people are really burying their real gut feelings and reactions to say how great everything is. My wife is no longer saying any of it is good.
I speculate there is a couple things happening, one i call the bubble. That there are a lot of people not liking it but staying strong, but one day a big bubble is going to pop and flood of people are gonna leave or just stop attending. The potential is there. There is an undercurrent of people waking up even if only in their personal thoughts and feelings.
The other is a butterfly effect. Its:
the amount and availability of information on the internet.
its the more visible irrefutable sources of anti witness info (such as the ARC).
Its history and science making the bible out to be a huge lie.
Its the seemingly consistent, decent witnesses waking up, talking to family, changing habits, talking to elders.
All these things I think are building a snowball.
The religion will never go away, but if over the next few years there is a massive shift, division, or exodus.. I'd call that a win. I believe they have hit their apex.
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A lot of "forbidden" talk is going on among witnesses
by nevaagain inme and my wife are still "in".
we had the "talk" a couple of times, but shet is not ready to leave yet.
while a couple of years ago she started crying on the thought that i am an "apostate" and even gave me an ultimatum until she would rat me out to the elders (never happened), now i sense that she might is a little bit more open to the the thought to leave one day .... anyway, all out friends and family are still in the truth and whenever we are meeting with other witnesses topic #1 is always the recent changes to the meetings / conventions (reduced to one day) which always lead to the changes to the magazines and the recent lay offs of the special pioneers and bethelites.
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freemindfade
My experience with the wife is similar. She went from nervous breakdown a few years ago to seemingly being apathetic towards "the truth" even though she is not awake by any means. She has changed a lot and I think it's seeing all this nonsense go on and being embarrassed by the organization and people in it -
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No Blood bracelets
by StarTrekAngel inhow disturbing is this?
someone is promoting this bracelets.. for sale @ $1.99.
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freemindfade
Idiotic. Let's be honest at that point it's not about medical directive it's about showing non-witnesses and witnesses how hard core self righteous prick jw you are. Smh