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  Evolution and Atheism - please help

  by Fernando in

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  not being familiar with either, my question is:.

  what is the relationship between evolution and atheism?.

  i'd love to hear from anyone and everyone, and also from any perspective.. without limiting the conversation in any way, i would of course also appreciate comments that are simple, clear, direct and correct (as i don't have the capacity to do a phd in evolution or atheism)..

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  freemindfade

  They should not be thought of as being related. Atheism is not a religion and evolution is not it's dogma.

  Evolution is related to science and evidence. Often once people begin seeing things this way a biproduct of this is atheism or agnosticism.

  They are separate things. Evolution does pose problems for creationists and Abrahamic religions that try to explain everything from the perspective of bronze age goat herders.

  Evolution = there is evidence of evolution.

  Atheism = there is no evidence of "god"

  Not really the same thing.
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  Did you get " Counseled " about the Music you Listened to While you were a JW ?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from the time i was a small boy - i loved rock n' roll music.

  beatles, rolling stones, led zeppelin, hendrix.

  i started getting slighted for the music i listened to as i lay in my bedroom listening on headphones to led zeppelin's song " black dog " at age 14 with my elder dad looking suspiciously at me as i'm rocking out .

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  My music era was the 90's and even though I listened to gangster rap, I mostly took heat for the alternative music of the time and the old stuff too.

  I had family members that spoke of all their scary experiences back when they used to listen to led zep. Funny i had all the stuff and no demons were summoned...

  Also was told that soundgarden, nirvana, alice in chains etc was depressing and would cause suicide. Shit... I think that music kept me from committing suicide being in a damn cult!

  metal, alternative and rap, I got the most crap over classic rock and alternative. Silly stupid cult.
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  Did you get " Counseled " about the Music you Listened to While you were a JW ?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from the time i was a small boy - i loved rock n' roll music.

  beatles, rolling stones, led zeppelin, hendrix.

  i started getting slighted for the music i listened to as i lay in my bedroom listening on headphones to led zeppelin's song " black dog " at age 14 with my elder dad looking suspiciously at me as i'm rocking out .

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  freemindfade

  Constantly. Also bands I was in.
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  Gay advice from the Governing Body

  by Listener in

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  2. beliefs

  according to them you are not gay if you are attracted to the same sex, it's just hormones and you might grow out of it.. i wonder what hormones in particular they are talking about and if they feel that a female who goes through menopause is in danger of turning gay or even if taking hormones will adjust your thinking?.

  this is from the wt org website.

  https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/ask/pressure-to-be-gay/.

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  This is total madness. How do they get away with such ignorance in this day and age???
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  The slow trickle has become a steady stream!

  by freddo in

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  in the last few weeks it seems that instead of one or two new posters a week we seem to be getting several every day.

  many seem to be long time jw's who are troubled by the path of the organisation.

  this is really encouraging to those of us who have been here sometime.. welcome!

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  freemindfade

  in the 80's we had the revelation book, the cold war, etc everyone was trying to decode everything political leaders said to try and hear "peace & security". who was the king of the north and south.. yadda yadda yadda. What now?

  I feel we are far from those days and the rank & file are lacking something to keep their eschatology attention. Its utterly redundant and boring with embarrassing new advancements that people say they love, but lets face it, it smacks of mega church culture now.
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  Analytical trend after broadcasts?

  by juandefiero in

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  2. suggestions

  simon,.

  i'm not sure if you ever share analytics data.. but i've been noticing a trend.

  it seems that every time a new jw broadcast, we get a seeming increase in new members the week after.. does the data show that?.

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  Yes I wonder if its a chain reaction, I believe the org has a lot who are uncomfortable with were its going, some maybe lurking, after another wacky broadcast they finally feel so uncomfortable with it they go from lurker to poster, other lurkers see their first posts and are inspired to do the same.

  That's my imagined scenario. If all the people waking up knew how many of them there were they'd probably walk out in droves. This fear of "its just you" is a powerful control tool.
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  It's not "new light" anymore it's "new lies" .

  by truth doubter in

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  this is my first post.

  i never dreamed i'd be on a site like this.

  i was baptized 43 years ago and pretty much have done and seen it all.

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  freemindfade

  Welcome.
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  Walking a thin line - Resigning Elder

  by Sanchy in

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  warning of a long boring post ahead.

  i feel like i need to vent my story out, as i feel quite helpless at the moment.. i'm 31 year old, married, father of toddler with another one on the way, due later this month.

  i've been serving as elder for about 4 years now in a south florida congregation.

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  Patkim & Sanchy

  Take a deep breath (literally and figuratively). Posting is a big breakthrough and the pain of baring all this on your own is over, still there is a big road ahead but you have time to sort if out if you do it right. Tell your stories, vent, ask questions, communicate and read. Finding ones to go through this with is one of the most important and helpful things. I know had I not found friends here and had to do this on my own I would have made poor choices and probably cracked. So take a breath and start to detox this stuff out of your life at a manageable safe pace.
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  Walking a thin line - Resigning Elder

  by Sanchy in

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  2. friends

  warning of a long boring post ahead.

  i feel like i need to vent my story out, as i feel quite helpless at the moment.. i'm 31 year old, married, father of toddler with another one on the way, due later this month.

  i've been serving as elder for about 4 years now in a south florida congregation.

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  freemindfade

  Welcome and I too am currently in South Florida. Pm me if you like.
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  Pandora's Box is now open!

  by pandorasbox1914 in

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  hi everyone, i have been lurking for some time now and decided to open the box (hence pandora).

  about a year ago i became aware of child abuse within the org, out of curiosity (just like pandora) i opened the box and the evils have been pouring out ever since regarding the org.

  anyway, this came to a head last summer with the arc.

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  freemindfade

  Welcome to freedom