Leaders should have natural abilities and a certain personality that causes them to be a certain way... elders are not this type, generally speaking, especially the further you get from metropolitan areas. They are people who have made nothing of themselves in the real world, and this little witness world puts them on a pedestal for obeying the status quo. So they become nazi, policing, gestapo assholes because they have no business in a position of any kind of leadership. I have the fortune of being in my last two halls where this did not exist, the main members of he elders bodies were not insecure, window cleaners, they were serious, and successful people. They actually admire my desire to not need to be an elder or MS to feel good about myself, they are a different breed and rare in the org. All the rest feel like more spiritual men for being Orwellian assholes