Posts by freemindfade

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New video telling the R&F to be generous

by Splash in

bro sanderson has a 7 minute video up on their streaming website called "be willing to open your hand".. in it he tells us not to be "tight fisted" or "stingy" and later "regardless of how much we have or how little we have, we'll find something within our power to be able to do".

we have the responsibility to imitate jehovah's generosity.. there's a bit about giving to one another when we see the need, which is nice, then he drops in how 20 years ago the canada branch committee asked the bethel family for donations to the disaster relief fund, and promptly raised over $10,000.

i think that's pretty good going for those under a vow of poverty.. "the generous person will prosper" he says, then illustrates this using a made up story.

freemindfade

My experience with Witnesses far and wide is that they ARE some of the cheapest, stingiest people. Especially in America. Wether they are window washers or have money. They are not generous. In other countries they may be, but some other countries generosity is cultural as well.

My wife is really beginning to see this too, how the majority of RF from young adult to middle aged are generally inhospitable, ungenerous, and ungrateful to those who actually are, in fact they may resent you! This has been my over all impression, and she is starting to see it.

Maybe this is a deflection of Lett's part, to soften up his message a little and make it seem like they are asking for general openhandedness

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In depth research reveals....

by Deltawave in

something i have noticed over the years is how much harder it is to research the history of the watchtower society from its own literature.

people have thrown away old publications in place of the watchtower library.

i beleive soon the watchtower library disk will be discontinued in place of the online library.

freemindfade

Orwellian move. Rewriting your own history. Also when you bring up something and say look what they wrote followers will say "where did that come from" apostates? "How did you get that? Apostates?" And so on...

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Suggestions for Governing Body 2.0

by FusionTheism in

i realize many people on here are very angry at the watchtower society and/or governing body for various reasons, many of which are likely justified, at least to some extent.

i also can totally understand the cynicism and pessimism i see from certain ones regarding the leaders of the society.. i think one thing that's often forgotten or overlooked, however, is the fact that members of the governing body who've been "in the truth" for 30, 40, 50, 60 years, probably truly believe in this organization.

in my opinion, it's more likely that they believe what they teach instead of being liars who are intentionally deceiving everyone.

freemindfade

What is disposable with the gb, radical islam, deadly cults, and any kind of extremists. Is thats they believe they demonstrate their zeal for god by harming other, they learn this from their holy books, in Isreal the two witnesses to apostasy would have to be the first to stone the person to demonstrate their zeal for the desert god. So it's a loop of anger. Not just at them, it should start with whoever made up this deserert god, the book it was written in, then those that take it literal and hurt others. It's not if they believe it true or not. Is harmful.

I suggest googling images of stoning still going on in the middle east. a man or woman buried up to their ribs, arms stuck in the ground, head smashed and blood everywhere from zealots crushing them with stones. Now, that originated with your god, and if the laws allowed it, this gb 2.0 would have the same done to you just for visiting this website. Think about that for a minute.

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Suffering: the result of Adamic sin?

by confused in

i am currently having a study with a pioneer couple to try to reactivate me and get me back into the congregation.

they have asked me to really think about the provision of the ransom sacrifice.

in doing so i have gone back to basics and have already hit a few questions i am thinking of raising.

freemindfade

I remember reading about sin somewhere in the insight book I believe. It said original sin was not eating the fruit. It wasn't Adam and eve even. It started in heaven With Satan.

Also yes. If someone tricked you even if you acted presumptuousely seems harsh to banish billions for thousands of years to pain and suffering. Think about it. If satan originated sin, he wasn't deceived by anyone but himself, eve was influenced by an external force ie deceived. But isnt the ransom great thought

And why so long? So man can try every form of ruling himself? thats couldn't have been done in 100 years? 500 years?

It all makes my head hurt.

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Catch phrases used by the GB

by stuckinarut2 in

i read a comment on another thread that made me think of this topic.. how many catchphrases are used by the gb and organisation in an attempt to control or gain power or prevent questioning?

feel free to list as many as you can think of!.

i'll start:.

freemindfade

Cult...

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The New 2015 Insight Book

by FusionTheism in

what changes and new light have you found so far in the new 2015 insight book?.

here's a short list so far of the articles i noticed which have been changed:.

* generation.

freemindfade

Its funny when it comes to spanking the congregation they are "appointed by god," but when it comes to f%#$ing up, well "they are just imperfect men"

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GB Partying after the launch of the NWT...

by hardtobeme in

jw
friends

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freemindfade

hahahahaha

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A Burger and a Hook-up

by John Aquila in

so i went to get a burger just now, and a couple of elders from my former congregation caught me off guard.

they started giving me the we feel so sorry for you, you must be so lonely bit.

i kept telling them im doing great and im not lonely but its like they couldnt hear me talking.

freemindfade

Did you ask him if any of these girls were DTF? Because pioneering is not that interesting, but F-ing is!

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"Be Kind to the Fornicators in the Congregation!" -- New August Watchtower

by FusionTheism in

have you noticed the article entitled "watch your associations in these last days" in the new august 2015 study watchtower?.

unless i'm reading it wrong, or somehow misinterpreting it, it is saying that we should be kind to intentional breakers of god's laws inside and outside the congregation, including fornicators, but that we must not be close associates with them.. are they already preparing for a shift in their disfellowshipping practices?.

here are the relevant paragraphs:.

freemindfade

I said it before even if they were forced by the law to come out and say don't shun, it would be wink wink, the shunning will always continue. Regardless of what they put in print.

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The New 2015 Insight Book

by FusionTheism in

what changes and new light have you found so far in the new 2015 insight book?.

here's a short list so far of the articles i noticed which have been changed:.

* generation.

freemindfade

Not sure if this is different or the same but just read this madness, looks like mentally diseased isn't going away anytime soon. AND THIS WAS UNDER ABUSIVE SPEACH!!! so ironic.

But such talk can be expected from those who indulge in loose conduct, those who are proud and mentally diseased over questionings and debates, and those who disregard or disrespect God’s appointments.—1Ti 6:4; 2Pe 2:10-12; Jude 8-10.

Reading disfellowhsipping too which redirects to Expelling, reading stuff like this makes me sick and conjures ip imagines of ISIS:

Under the Law, for the penalty of cutting off to be carried out, evidence had to be established at the mouth of at least two witnesses. (De 19:15) These witnesses were required to be the first to stone the guilty one. (De 17:7) This would demonstrate their zeal for God’s law and the purity of the congregation of Israel and would also be a deterrent to false, careless, or hasty testimony.

Then this, the only thing that kept the sanhedrin from killing them was the Romans...

...when the Sanhedrin judged someone deserving of death, they could not always administer the death penalty, because of restrictions by the Romans.