The Case for Theism

by FusionTheism in

"theism" here means "belief in a god" or "the worldview that an intelligent designer created the universe and life.

" ("god" here means a being with a mind who initiated and/or wound-up the universe, and designed life on earth)the most common claim that i see atheists making on twitter, is that "no evidence" exists in support of belief in a god.this post will remove any excuse atheists have for claiming "no evidence exists" in support of an initiator.

atheists can still reject this evidence as "weak," but they cannot truthfully say it does not exist.now, it is true that we do not have "observable, repeatable, falsifiable, empirical, scientific" evidence conclusively proving that an initiator exists, but we do have many lines of philisophical, experiential, and logical evidence.and... here... we... go:1:) many leading scientists, including stephen hawking, say that the space-time-matter universe had a beginning at the singularity/big bang.

freemindfade

Also lack of belief in god/intelligent design, is not a clam that they don't exist. Shit some people claim we were put here by aliens, or that we live in something like the matrix, where reality is like a computer program, or that everything is really a hologram, or on and on and on and on.....

Big deal, where is the solid evidence to any of it? You haven't provided any Fusion. There are all sorts of fantastic ideas as to what it all means, and how it all got here, the sad thing is that some of these outlandish things have more evidence to their probability than YHWH!!!

Instead of coming up with an end BELIEF, then trying to make any plausible possibility fit into that believe why don't you start at the other side, what does evidence show without any preconceived idea.

Here is something of value from Hawking FusionTheism

“When people ask me if a god created the universe, I tell them that the question itself makes no sense. Time didn’t exist before the big bang, so there is no time for god to make the universe in. It’s like asking directions to the edge of the earth; The Earth is a sphere; it doesn’t have an edge; so looking for it is a futile exercise. We are each free to believe what we want, and it’s my view that the simplest explanation is; there is no god. No one created our universe,and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realization; There is probably no heaven, and no afterlife either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe, and for that I am extremely grateful.”

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The Case for Theism

by FusionTheism in

"theism" here means "belief in a god" or "the worldview that an intelligent designer created the universe and life.

" ("god" here means a being with a mind who initiated and/or wound-up the universe, and designed life on earth)the most common claim that i see atheists making on twitter, is that "no evidence" exists in support of belief in a god.this post will remove any excuse atheists have for claiming "no evidence exists" in support of an initiator.

atheists can still reject this evidence as "weak," but they cannot truthfully say it does not exist.now, it is true that we do not have "observable, repeatable, falsifiable, empirical, scientific" evidence conclusively proving that an initiator exists, but we do have many lines of philisophical, experiential, and logical evidence.and... here... we... go:1:) many leading scientists, including stephen hawking, say that the space-time-matter universe had a beginning at the singularity/big bang.

freemindfade

Thank you Viviane.

Fusion why make it so simple... have you read anything on string theory and multi verses???

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Bible Chronology, Egyptology and the Great Flood

by cappytan in

fact: bible chronology says the flood occurred between 2348 and 2370 bce, depending on which scholar you listen to.

fact: the great pyramid of giza was constructed 200 years before, in c. 2560 bce..

so, if you believe in a literal interpretation of noah's flood, you believe that the egyptians built a great civilization, were destroyed by the flood in 2370 bce, and then somehow, they reappeared immediately after the flood, picked right back up where they left off without skipping a cultural beat.. oh, and isn't it ironic that legitimately studying the great pyramid of giza debunks jw mythology now?

freemindfade

More facts that jw cd has to do extraordinary mental gymnastics to protect their fantasy.

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Interview with a member of the JW writing department

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

this is so funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eo1o5qmagu.

freemindfade

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2015 Regional Convention Anthony Morris Governing Body encourages coerced baptism of unwilling children ...again

by Watchtower-Free in

this is from the last talk of the convention ......... clip 1:30 minutes longhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrej8tlyiso&feature=youtu.be.

freemindfade

Every time he says:

"Explain that one to

Heaven
God
Jesus

We need the sadtrombone and laugh track...

Cappy?

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The monthly broadcast as an opportunity to wake up

by paradisebeauty in

i was thinking that maybe the monthly broadcasts are a occasion for some jw's to wake up.

before those broadcasts they probably imagined that the gobgoverning y members are some very special peopleand that you see in their behavior and words that they are "chosen".

but now all jw's can see them for who they really are: average men, some full of themselves, some ridiculous, some just normal men with nothing special.

freemindfade

steve2

Very true. We are far more aware of content with the JW's, the Bible, the Broadcasts than in R&F. They just check out, do their time, look at the pretty lights, then rave about how wonderful the koolaid tastes. You have to pay attention to wake up.

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The monthly broadcast as an opportunity to wake up

by paradisebeauty in

i was thinking that maybe the monthly broadcasts are a occasion for some jw's to wake up.

before those broadcasts they probably imagined that the gobgoverning y members are some very special peopleand that you see in their behavior and words that they are "chosen".

but now all jw's can see them for who they really are: average men, some full of themselves, some ridiculous, some just normal men with nothing special.

freemindfade

One can only hope.

Its going to cause the very blind to continue on as strong as ever

It's going to cause the unsure to have horrible CD and fight their true feelings

It will likely cause those waking, to accelerate.

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There is no right and wrong

by campaign of hate in

jw
friends

so i am a little tangled up in this train of thought, as it can go quite deep.. as a jw, albeit fully awake, we are taught that there is right and a wrong.

smoking is wrong.

going on the ministry is right.

freemindfade

Anytime your morality must come from an external source based on ego of some sort, it's going to get twisted. What do morals do? really they make for a stronger society, healthier society. The dogma of religion, specifically the big three from Abraham, dabble some of this in with a lot of nonsense. Being kind to your neighbor, being a decent person, those things get lost in religions idea of right and wrong, then you have extremists committing great wrongs. Because YHWH, God, Allah always includes a 'but' or 'if'. It gives a loophole for great evils.

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."-Steven Weinberg

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The WTBTS "almost" admits the truth.....

by DATA-DOG in

during the wt session, the org admits that the actions of eldubs can cause an eventual shortage of "qualified " brothers, and it has.

they speak of a lack of teaching as the cause.

in reality, it's the legalism and control issues within the org itself that have caused a shortage of men who are willing to reach out.

freemindfade

I found it very strange the watchtower outright mentions brothers in 20's and 30's. Also that it said "need greaters"

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Do we have a "spiritual need"?

by LexIsFree in

so this is only my second post but its about something that has been on my mind for awhile now.

have any of you ever felt the need to pray or speak to a higher power?

do any of you beleive that we were created or have evolved with a "spiritual need"?

freemindfade

Work I harmony with your prayers is the same as saying do it yourself but remember it was actually god, like the homeless starving fellow who told the old lady he could make soup out of a stone. So he started with the stone and kept asking for things and eventually just made soup that had a rock in it the prayer does nothing. You do.

freemindfade

Posts by freemindfade

Very true. We are far more aware of content with the JW's, the Bible, the Broadcasts than in R&F. They just check out, do their time, look at the pretty lights, then rave about how wonderful the koolaid tastes. You have to pay attention to wake up.