Posts by freemindfade

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Bible Rules on Netflix

by freemindfade in

started a history channel series on netflix last night called bible rules.

first episode was interesting.

in one part is was discussing stoning (which was not exclusive to the people of the dessert god).

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No apologists on child sacrifice? Not as fun without the apologists

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Bible Rules on Netflix

by freemindfade in

started a history channel series on netflix last night called bible rules.

first episode was interesting.

in one part is was discussing stoning (which was not exclusive to the people of the dessert god).

Its good for lurkers to know that the Desert god (yhwh, yahweh, Jehovah etc.) was not opposed to child sacrifice. Yes the scriptures did condemn it at times, but often with qualifiers like "to Molech". Instead of just "don't sacrifice your kids". There are scriptures that outright say it like that though, but this was likely due to changes in culture perception of these types of practices.

Here is a good one from 2 Samuel for the lurkers. The desert god is punishing Israel with famine, so what's the answer?

Problem: Desert god mad

Solution: Human sacrafice

21 Now there was a famine+ in the days of David for three consecutive years, so David consulted Jehovah, and Jehovah said: “There is bloodguilt on Saul and on his house, because he put the Gibʹe·on·ites to death.”+ 2 So the king called the Gibʹe·on·ites+ and spoke to them. (Incidentally, the Gibʹe·on·ites were not Israelites but Amʹor·ites+ who remained, and the Israelites had sworn to spare them,+ but Saul sought to strike them down in his zeal for the people of Israel and Judah.)3 David said to the Gibʹe·on·ites: “What should I do for you, and how can I make atonement, so that you will bless the inheritance of Jehovah?” 4 The Gibʹe·on·ites said to him: “It is not a matter of silver or gold+ for us in connection with Saul and his household; nor can we put any man to death in Israel.” At that he said: “Whatever you say, I will do for you.” 5 They said to the king: “The man who exterminated us and schemed to annihilate us from living anywhere in the territory of Israel+— 6 let seven of his sons be given to us. We will hang their dead bodies*+ before Jehovah in Gibʹe·ah+ of Saul, the chosen one of Jehovah.”+ The king then said: “I will hand them over.”

7 However, the king showed compassion for Me·phibʹo·sheth,+ the son of Jonʹa·than the son of Saul, because of the oath made before Jehovah between David and Jonʹa·than,+ the son of Saul. 8 So the king took Ar·moʹni and Me·phibʹo·sheth, the two sons of Rizʹpah+ the daughter of Aʹiah whom she bore toSaul, and the five sons of Miʹchal*+ the daughter of Saul whom she bore to Aʹdri·el+the son of Bar·zilʹlai the Me·holʹath·ite. 9 Then he handed them over to the Gibʹe·on·ites, and they hung their dead bodies on the mountain before Jehovah.+All seven of them died together; they were put to death in the first days of harvest, at the start of the barley harvest. 10 Then Rizʹpah+ the daughter of Aʹiah took sackcloth and spread it out on the rock from the start of harvest until rain poured down from the heavens on the bodies; she did not allow the birds of the heavens to land on them by day nor the wild beasts of the field to come near by night.

Also lets not forget Jeptha...

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Bible Rules on Netflix

by freemindfade in

started a history channel series on netflix last night called bible rules.

first episode was interesting.

in one part is was discussing stoning (which was not exclusive to the people of the dessert god).

freemindfade

27 So he took his firstborn son who was going to reign in his place and offered him up as a burnt sacrifice+ on the wall. And there came to be great indignation against Israel, so they withdrew from against him and returned to their land.

I'm counting my time btw... lmao... time, as if.

Mind you they were attacking moab and who/what's wrath/anger came against them??

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Bible Rules on Netflix

by freemindfade in

started a history channel series on netflix last night called bible rules.

first episode was interesting.

in one part is was discussing stoning (which was not exclusive to the people of the dessert god).

freemindfade

2 Kings 3:27

International Standard Version

So he took his firstborn son, whom he intended to reign after him, and offered him up as a burnt offering on the wall. There subsequently came great anger against Israel, so they abandoned the attack and returned to their homeland.

Looks like moloch had some street cred too.

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Bible Rules on Netflix

by freemindfade in

started a history channel series on netflix last night called bible rules.

first episode was interesting.

in one part is was discussing stoning (which was not exclusive to the people of the dessert god).

freemindfade

Yes the stoning they suggested was not to show loyalty towards the persons wrong doing, but to show how you would be loyal if the city was attacked etc, totally power/control/political. So how is disfellowshipping any different? Its not some enlightened spiritual form of justice, its bronze-motha-f&%$ing-age control.

_Morpheus They also mentioned a scripture (i need to find it) where the moabites or someone sacrificed a child and the Israelites lost a battle. Looks like the desert god recognizes the effectiveness of child sacrafice.

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Bible Rules on Netflix

by freemindfade in

started a history channel series on netflix last night called bible rules.

first episode was interesting.

in one part is was discussing stoning (which was not exclusive to the people of the dessert god).

freemindfade

Started a history channel series on Netflix last night called bible rules. First episode was interesting. In one part is was discussing stoning (which was not exclusive to the people of the dessert god).

Something they strongly emphasised was how there were a lot of ways to kill someone. Yes this was barbaric but there was another factor to it as well. It demonstrated your loyalty. Sound like disfellowshipping? Everyone gets to participate this way they can show their loyalty to the religious leaders and group. Vicariously representing some diety.

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I have found a new Religion............come join me now before its too late

by KateWild in

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0101/planofsalvation.html.

if you haven't seen this before thought you'd like it.

kate xx.

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And all the tax benefits

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People should learn more about the Bible flaws

by opusdei1972 in

i have noted that the main problem for those who are seduced by the watchtower society is their ignorance about the bible itself.

people who believe that the bible is the word of god usually ignore the studies on textual criticism and how scientific criteria forbid absurd stories like that of the global flood.

so, i strongly believe that students in schools need at least an obligatory course on "the bible" through the point of view of science and the textual criticism.

freemindfade

I agree with you. That was what woke me up. Weekly bible reading. Then questioning and researching, the realising the witnesses have molded the bible into a witness world. If you were raised in this is what you believe.

This is why I believe Caleb in floroda has some of the best info for crushing witness fantasies about the bible. I am a huge critic of what's in the bible and how dangerous it's ideas cab be. But people don't realise what it was and leave it like that as a cultural artifact of story telling and not the word of THEIR almighty god

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Why some smart people believe the JWs/Bible

by jws in

jw
friends

i consider myself smart.

go ahead, laugh.

i have a sense of humor too.. but i grew up a jw and also believed in the bible.

freemindfade

I was raised in as well. Don't consider myself that unintelligent, but it took me 30 years to get courage to be rational. I can relate to what you have posted here. One day I was watching some middle east atrocities, and I thought to myself, "if witnesses knocked on my door, would I even answer it? or would I straight up tell them get the f%$# off my porch? I probably would never even entertain this mess, so why was I in? It turned the key for me to question absolutely everything and give myself of the opportunity of coming in the truth instead of being raised. And I found it all to be utter crap.

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July 19th Watchtower Summary. Insanity

by Lemonp in

just got back from the wt study and it overall was just so blindingly biased and leading.. i had to read it from the platform too, i hope they couldn't see the confounded look on my face as i read this craziness out!.

first we consider the faith of abel, enoch, noah, abraham, isaac and jacob, and moses.. all of these people are held up as sterling examples of blind faith, with the article pointedly saying that their imaginations sustained their faith in gods promises for them.

no mention anywhere at all that all of these characters saw and talked to angels, spoke to god himself, saw and performed miracles, or any of the other feats experienced by these characters.

freemindfade

Crazy guy, I think you are correct.

JWS were always a cult, but its not my grandpas cult anymore. I feel they are going through a shift and its causing them some identity crisis. They are trying to preserve membership while finding their new identity. The message is less dogmatic, and more emotional and topical while the cult tools are still strong.

Where is today's revelation book???

Where is the trinity brochure???

yea they were out there and crazy but the org had balls. Now its stand by this cart with your ipad and fantasize about petty lions.