Wow.
The the bible fairy tale book has stories if both people standing up against corrupt leadership, and also about not "murmuring"
The witnesses cast a wide net over this complaining clause.
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Recent Observation: "Even if it's true..."
by freemindfade inhas anyone else heard this said more frequently lately?
"even if it's true..." i have seen it said on here a few times in quotes from in family or friends responding the negative things about the org.. i heard it tuesday night again.
in a pioneer sisters comment.
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Recent Observation: "Even if it's true..."
by freemindfade inhas anyone else heard this said more frequently lately?
"even if it's true..." i have seen it said on here a few times in quotes from in family or friends responding the negative things about the org.. i heard it tuesday night again.
in a pioneer sisters comment.
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I don't believe it will become institutionalized on the top level, the GB will NEVER say even if its true... the R&F are searching for their own coping with the barrage coming at them. -
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Recent Observation: "Even if it's true..."
by freemindfade inhas anyone else heard this said more frequently lately?
"even if it's true..." i have seen it said on here a few times in quotes from in family or friends responding the negative things about the org.. i heard it tuesday night again.
in a pioneer sisters comment.
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freemindfade
Has anyone else heard this said more frequently lately? "Even if it's true..." I have seen it said on here a few times in quotes from in family or friends responding the negative things about the org.
I heard it Tuesday night again. In a pioneer sisters comment. I think she got tongue tied a bit and it came out sounding really bad. But this I what she was in affect saying "if we hear negative things about the organization, even if they are true, we need to not listen" I shit you not. I don't think she meant it to sound like that but it did almost word for word.
My observation is this. With the org on the ropes, the Internet and bad press, it's becoming more and more difficult to write negative things off as "apostate lies". Is this a next step in theit defense system? Just outright ignore true things about us that are good? I know they have always been that way but this is way more overt. It seems desperate and hearing it is bound to rouse some who will be waking up.
Thoughts?
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Child Abuse - "I don't care. I haven't got any children".
by cofty inearlier this week i bumped into a couple of jws who i recognised from the cult cart.
a few months ago i had a long conversation with him one of them and found him to be quite friendly.
he is new to the area in the years since i left.. this time he was very defensive and said he wasn't allowed to talk to me.
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Breaking news: US mass shooting
by Simon init's getting to the point where cnn should start announcing "breaking news" if there *hasn't* been a mass shooting !.
it's crazy.. i was watching the 70's documentary they are running and that's the point when media hype about mass serial killers seemed to begin the danger-gun-solution hype cycle.
sure, people had guns before then but nowhere near like it is now.. when will it end?
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Im ready to leave
by SpunkedTeen ini just found this website and im so glad because for the first time in a long time i dont feel alone...i am a born in and in the last two years have been struggling because i thought that i was the problem and i was the reason for not feeling any love from and for the other pubs .i want to leave the org but have no idea how to tell my mother(who is a faithful jw).
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Earth 2.0 discovered!
by Island Man inhttp://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/23/us/feat-nasa-kepler-planet-discovery/index.html.
this planet is the most earth-like planet discovered to-date.
it's at the right distance from its sun to allow for liquid water and life, and it has a year of 385 days - only 20 days longer than our own year!.
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freemindfade
I just saw that article too. I love these new discoveries, guess thousands of eldubs should be changing their talk outlines where they drone on for 15 minutes about how the earth is just right and that just an impossible coincidence.
Oops, guess not @$$holes. go go gadget new light...
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Rejecting something due to unscriptural or pagan origins.....?
by stuckinarut2 inso witnesses reject many practices or holidays due to their "unscriptural or pagan" origins.. for example, birthday celebrations, mothers or father's day, christmas etc..... most people in the world will say "but the origin doesn't matter anymore, we follow this custom now because it's a joyful occasion that creates happy times and brings the family together".
it is still firmly rejected.. so, if the wrong origin is so important, and should result in rejecting something, why isn't the same principle applied to the actual jehovah's witness faith itself!?.
after all, the very foundation of the organisation was based on wrong understandings of the bible, far fetched teachings and doctrines, links to false religious backgrounds, pyramidology, false predictions, inaccurate beliefs etc...... using their reasoning, it doesn't matter how good something is now, if the origin was faulty to begin with?
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freemindfade
Just one thing to add along with this excellent observation, why is it also considered apostasy to research in depth the origins of this religion, not the anecdotal white washed version they give today?
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Rejecting something due to unscriptural or pagan origins.....?
by stuckinarut2 inso witnesses reject many practices or holidays due to their "unscriptural or pagan" origins.. for example, birthday celebrations, mothers or father's day, christmas etc..... most people in the world will say "but the origin doesn't matter anymore, we follow this custom now because it's a joyful occasion that creates happy times and brings the family together".
it is still firmly rejected.. so, if the wrong origin is so important, and should result in rejecting something, why isn't the same principle applied to the actual jehovah's witness faith itself!?.
after all, the very foundation of the organisation was based on wrong understandings of the bible, far fetched teachings and doctrines, links to false religious backgrounds, pyramidology, false predictions, inaccurate beliefs etc...... using their reasoning, it doesn't matter how good something is now, if the origin was faulty to begin with?
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freemindfade
Excellent post