Posts by freemindfade

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"Getting Baptized Is A Protection...."

by dubstepped in

i'm sure that most of us heard that line when we were young.

i never could convince myself of that, other than that it hung a blade over my head that would then be on the chopping block should i err in some way and thus they would be protected from me, but i also knew that i needed to do so anyway.

otherwise i'd be a pariah if i got older and didn't take the step, and i wanted to be good in their eyes.

freemindfade

about as much a protection as this...

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"Getting Baptized Is A Protection...."

by dubstepped in

i'm sure that most of us heard that line when we were young.

i never could convince myself of that, other than that it hung a blade over my head that would then be on the chopping block should i err in some way and thus they would be protected from me, but i also knew that i needed to do so anyway.

otherwise i'd be a pariah if i got older and didn't take the step, and i wanted to be good in their eyes.

freemindfade

All getting baptized does, is get you wet.

Now being sworn into any totalitarian group, be it religious, cult government etc, can offer some sort of prevention by demanding obedience under penalty of something.

For the witnesses this membership give protection for what exactly? Morals?

Obey or else. I personally would rather be surrounded by "disobedient" people, who will do things because they are good people, not "obedient". my friend was told by a CO's wife, "The desert god doesn't want good people, he wants obedient people". think about the implications of that. Obedience for fear of punishment or granting of reward (as the witnesses are) is so shallow! What happens often when one of these "obedient" ones abandons the rules? Well then yes, they harm themselves, because they are just "obedient".

I think baptism as a protection is nonsense, does it technically maybe prevent some things, yea I guess just like demanding certain secular laws under penalty of punishment does. But it DOES NOT make you a good person. It may actually do more harm than good, because it makes you reliant on rules for your morals and behavior, take it away and what do you have? confusion.

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Happy birthday to me!

by purrpurr in

it's my birthday!

woweee!

i'm celebrating it too!

freemindfade

Happy birthday

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The new 'classes' jehovahs-witness.net has created. Which one are you?

by Esse quam videri in

over time a number of different 'classes' of members have arisen on this forum.

1] apple watch watchers - this group takes a great interest in watches worn by members of the governing body.

2] cult escape consultants - one who freely offers advise on how to flee from a cult - mainly the wt society.

freemindfade

all of the above

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Conditioned to fail

by Jordandemm in

jw
friends

just want to say hi and a big thank you to all that post in this site.

it has been extremely tough waking up as a born.

but in slowly removing any doubts about leaving this man made religion.

freemindfade

Welcome. Glad to have you. Look forward to hearing more from you.

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Just lost one more friend

by paradisebeauty in

i used to talk weekly on skype, with a sister from another country.

i didn't tell her much about my research and change of beliefs, until today ... in the conversations some doctrines came up and i told her i don't believe 1914, first, then i went on to tell her that i also don't believe there are 2 classes of christians, that i did not believe the government of the kingdom will be in heaven while the kingdom en earth, that i believe the whole kingdom will be on earth, and that from what i read, jesus was pretty clear that he will come back to earth, visibly.

the "god always had an organization" dogma was dropped and i told her it is not true, out of 9000 years of human history, it's not sure there were 1000 years when god had a loyal organization ..... i did not plan to tell her all this things, but it just happened, and things came up in the conversation... and once i dropped one bomb i dropped them all .... she said i do not sound like i am one of the jehovah's witnesses any more ... and even though we ended the call with "see ya" i have the feeling i will not hear from her any more ... .

freemindfade

Sorry to hear that. It's sad. I can relate. It's so wierd telling someone facts or rational things and having them go from friend to hater so fast because of it.

They can't see the irony of going to someone else's house and saying they know the truth about say...hellfire...then trying to share it with them. But if you, try to show them the truth about say...1914...well you are Satan. Sorry

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