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  Found out there is a religion EXACTLY like JW'S!! And I mean EXACTLY!

  by stillAwitness in

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  so i was talking to a friend of mine today, who was raised a protestant but it is some fanatical protestant group that is exactly like jehovah's wittnesses.

  her religion has basically the same teachings : the paradise, disfellowshipping, marrying "only in the lord" , no college, submissive women; the whole bit!

  she was even raised around the same terms like us: holy spirit instead of ghost, the "older ones", worldy, bad association, elders,

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  Tell ya what would be funny is to get one of each talkin stilla. They'd think it was a mirror and wonder......mmm another truth. this cult thing is easy, anyone wanna start one?
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  MY e-mail to stepdad and a hello again

  by KW13 in

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  firstly a hello again to people...hi.

  sorry i've been busy but not forgotten you all, the people that helped me take my final steps in clarifying everything!.

  if the insight book does show something the tablet in the british musuem as different then why?

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  Yeah, i dunno. I am sure you know about the wall that comes down if you aren't careful. i wanna be less attacking but not neutral either. i have nothing to defend.

  I just wanna keep it cool!
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  Share a Quote You like

  by Lo-ru-hamah in

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  2. friends

  last night i was surfing the net when i came upon this beautiful quote.

  i thought that everyone here would get it.

  those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

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  I chose a Watchtower quote.

  from - God's eternal purpose now triumphing [for mans good] - Page 94

  Quote "Certainly the Almighty, all wise God did not make a bad choice. Doubtless he was able to read the genetic pattern of the twins in Rebekah's womb, foresaw how the two boys would work out the direction of their lives".

  So badness is a Genetic problem some don't have! Excellent, were all faulty!
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  MY e-mail to stepdad and a hello again

  by KW13 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  firstly a hello again to people...hi.

  sorry i've been busy but not forgotten you all, the people that helped me take my final steps in clarifying everything!.

  if the insight book does show something the tablet in the british musuem as different then why?

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  Good luck :)
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  MY e-mail to stepdad and a hello again

  by KW13 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  firstly a hello again to people...hi.

  sorry i've been busy but not forgotten you all, the people that helped me take my final steps in clarifying everything!.

  if the insight book does show something the tablet in the british musuem as different then why?

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  Firstly a Hello again to people...HI. Sorry i've been busy but not forgotten you all, the people that helped me take my final steps in clarifying everything!

  Below this line is a document i attached to an e-mail to my stepdad. Don't tell me to tone it down or remove parts cos its too late, its sent and in his inbox. He is downstairs sippin coffee...hehe. ------------------------------------------
  Firstly the membership of the NGO (a department of the UN).Being an NGO means a non-govermental organization. So the society would be ok under that Category. On the UN website we see that any NGO MUST support the UN Charter.

  Visit http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf to see the document regarding the membership of the Society.
  You'll need Adobe acrobat installed to read it, or use my PC.

  My interest in this is because i was always taught its the disgusting thing, and that Christs Disciples are no part of this world.

  Would the UN lie about this? Well firstly they have no reason to lie or leave themselves so open to accusations of attacking a small group or organization. Your comments (by e-mail if thats best for you) would be appreciated or at least where i could go and look to clarify this .--------------------------------------------------------

  Then we have the 607 BCE thing. The society teach 607 BCE, its critical to the 1914 teaching. Many scholars and historians and of course Archaeologists date the destruction to 587/586 BCE.

  Firstly the British Musuem website. On there is a tablet says "He marched westwards again, in December 598 BC, as Jehoiakim, the king of Judah, had ceased to pay tribute. Nebuchadnezzar's army besieged Jerusalem and captured it on 15/16th March 597 BC. The new king of Judah, Jehoiachin, was captured and carried off to Babylon. A series of expeditions to Syria brings this Chronicle to an end in 594 BC. The VERY SAME tablet is shown in the insight book (Volume 2) yet the society say it shows 617 BCE.So even if the society don't use Babylonian tablets to show their dates, why do they say it says something it clearly does not? See http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/compass/index.html and upon entering their site search for the following...Cuneiform tablet with part of the Babylonian Chronicle Then select the first tablet there. Compare that to the tablet shown in the Insight book (Vol 2) on page 326. Its the same one but with different dates. There are said to be MANY tablets, Letters, Administrative Documents to prove the date. On the British Musuem site again search for 586 and you will see two letters.
  -------------------------------------------------------- Related to the above. IF everyone arrived back in Jerusalem on exactly 70 years (the fulfillment of the prophecy) then why does Jeremiah 25:12 say the 70 years ended in 539 when the Babylonian King was overthrown? What if the 70 years applied to how long the Babylonians had several nations in captivity. The same tablet from above says that around 609 BCE was the first conquest where the Babylonians conqured Assyria. If you count back from then there are several other times they conquered places...keep counting back to 539 (agreeing with Jeremiah 25:12 for the date 539 and you get 70 years in total.

  NOTE: Jeremiah 25:11 says NATIONS not Nation serving under the King of Babylon. SO this surely means more than one Nation
  (for example Assyria, Egypt and Syria AND Jerusalem). Then this doesn't mean people disagree with the bible. This strengthens its reliability and credibility.
  -------------------------------------------------------- Charles Taze Russell wrote a book proving when armageddon would come. He predicted 1914 using a Pyramid and measurements of it to get this date. Get the book from BROTHER XXXX and i am sure it will be an eye opener as to HOW he got these dates. I've seen photocopies of certain pages myself, did you know that up until after 1925 the society didn't believe 1914 was the date? Depending on what volumes you obtain you can see clearly the changes. Thy Kingdom Come (Studies in the Scriptures Vol.3) (1908) p.228
  That the deliverance of the saints must take place some time before 1914 is manifest

  Thy Kingdom Come (Studies in the Scriptures Vol.3) (1937) p.228 That the deliverance of the saints will take place some time after 1914 is manifest
  
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  Grab yourself the Watchtower January 1989 in the Bound Volume as we don't have the single magazine and then try and get the
  original on its own. Watchtower 1989 January 1 p.12 "The Hand of Jehovah Was With Them"
  The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century. Watchtower 1989 January 1 p.12 "The Hand of Jehovah Was With Them"
  [As it appears on Watchtower bound volumes & CD-ROMs]
  The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our day.

  Why is this change critical? If the work was to be completed in the 20th century as the original magazine stated. That would
  of been the fulfillment of Matthew 24:14 and then the end would have to come.
  -------------------------------------------------------- There are many other things that set me wondering, now if you don't feel comfortable answering any of these OR looking at
  any of the things stated then don't. This isn't an attack on your faith, but can't you see how critical these things are?

  IF for example the two Watchtowers of 1989 were different then why?
  IF the insight book does show something the tablet in the British Musuem as different then why? Take the time to look at HOW i might answer these things even if you don't want to look yourself. These are big things which
  i personally couldn't ignore.
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  Discussion with my parents about WTS

  by GBSJG in

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  after reading for a few months this is my first post here.

  i was raised a jehovah's witness by my parents who became jw's in the late '70s from field service.

  i'm still a jw but doing a lot of researching on the history of the wts.

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  Well your doing it right, if you can openly chat like this then Good!

  Ask yourself, if they are the 'True' Org of God then why do they get things wrong and then lie about it?

  Welcome to the site mate!
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  A question for my atheist friends.

  by PaNiCAtTaCk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i can certainly understand why many turn atheist but what would you tell your 5 year old daughter who was conscience but dying on a hospital bed looking into your eyes?

  would you be inclined to give her some hope of a better place even though you didnt believe it yourself?

  thanks in advance!

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  I am not atheist but i know for sure she would be scared. I'd Give her some hope that one day you will meet again whether or not its true. That will help her at least rest her mind some. So young and such a short life.
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  listing of authorities and their date for the fall of Jerusalem

  by M.J. in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sorry if this has been posted before.

  i came across it and thought it was worth pointing out: http://members.tripod.com/sosoutreach/wts/607.html.

  (edited) the annoying popup caused me to cut and paste the table from the page, rather than embed it: the narrative before and after is good too so you might want to check it out the original page.

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  I might be on my own here but i'd love to have all those books in my room...Hey er mum you gotta sec...
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  My Amazing Morphing Kids

  by rwagoner in

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  2. family

  my kids constantly amaze me.

  when other people are around they are little angels but once it is just their mom and i...look out....they release their true selves !

  lol.

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  ha ha, aye...they save it for their folks. I was always good until everyone went
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  Projected growth of the Watchtower Society

  by Elsewhere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i took the growth figures from 1945 through 2005 and use the past growth rates to predict the future rates and this is what i got.... by 2010 the growth rate will reach 0 and after that the average number of publishers will start to go down.

  their average number of publishers should stop rising at about 6.6 million members and by 2025 they should be back to 5 million.

  it took them 122 years to reach 5 million publishers and it will only take 10 years to go back to 5 million publishers after they peak out at 6.6 million in 2010. .

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  Well they gotta predict the end soon then or no one will be left