for those of you not "keeping up with the organization"botchtower deals soley with all the bullshit instances of "increased light" on this joke of a religion god's organization.
it asks many drone-like thought-provoking questions as i've listed below.
incredible that these guys claim to be the sole ownership of what is absolute "truth", yet change doctrines like i change lipsticks.
It time to start loading the animals and the family on the ark of salvation because Jehovah is soon to close the door. A stronger cultistic agenda stressing loyalty and that everything outside is Satan's system at work will in my opinion allow them to hold on a little longer while they use this as an excuse to downsize and take the profits from real-estate sales. Does anyone else feel the same way?
interesting view. my initial thought was something similar to Jonestown.
(shivers)... scary.
except that instead of feeling like a thread it feels like a giant knotted iron cable pulling at my heart.
we are among the 5th generation of witnesses, my great grand mother went to rutherfords funeral, and being a witness has always been central in their lives.
i went to bethel like my brother, and uncles before me and sat at the same sewing machine that my grandfather had sat at when he was there.
wow, you're living what i have this past year. only, i am the wife.
in the end, my husband (now nearly ex) da-ed himself.
but i have to continue living the lie, or at least fading imperceivably. my family has already lived through hell this past year with their son-in-law leaving and then us breaking up. it will be a very long time before they find out where i really am emotionally and mentally.
i suppose the only thing we can do is to hang in there.
SO HANG IN THERE!!!
and it's great that you're wife is so supportive too.
how many of you, when you were an active and zealous jw (assuming you were), were motivated by the paradise idea?
i was basically born in, so i wasn't drawn to the religion, it just was.. the whole idea of the paradise never really exicted me though.
i followed the religion and did what i did because i just believed it was the right thing to do and not so i could obtain the carrot on the end of the string.. how many of you felt the same way?
i always thought it really funny (and weird) that they would push these presentations where you'd ask the householder:
"wouldn't you like to live in a place similar to this artists' depiction of paradise?"
and the artists' depiction was so hokey and contrived and COLORFUL (like prisma color crayon drawings...)!!!
anyway, i always thought i'd kill myself before i ever even got to the/a paradise. and if there weren't any paradise, i'd never know. it's a good thing i didn't chose that route.
how many of you lead double lives while growing up (especially those who grew up jw)?
in the last few days, it seems that bothers me about my adolescence.
i had to be one person for my mother, while still trying to be myself.
not so much "leading a double life" as compensating for my morally bereft attitude. i.e. pioneering so i could justify not feeling bad about the alcohol and substance abuse. ahhh, good times.
where are you, you sweet thang..........dr. love, lady blue........it's been awhile since i've seen a post here from you!!
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her bio says
"Time for me to go, it's been nice knowing you all, and keep up the good fight! updated sept 20/05 "
for those of you not "keeping up with the organization"botchtower deals soley with all the bullshit instances of "increased light" on this joke of a religion god's organization.
it asks many drone-like thought-provoking questions as i've listed below.
incredible that these guys claim to be the sole ownership of what is absolute "truth", yet change doctrines like i change lipsticks.
maybe the new enlightenment will have something to do with moving up the 1914 date of jesus' enthronement to something like 1935, then they can reinstate the generation view.
also, the blood issue would be something of interest. i wasn't around during the organ transplant "flipflop" but it must've been huge.
i am a heavy heavy stresser and think about the most small of concerns.
i sometimes sit at night not sleeping, because the price of gas is going up or worrying if my work will be there next year.
always worried about if the bills will be paid and if the gas is on to long, and if we need to think about our diet more.
stress? i could write a book on the physiological/physical consequences of stress.
over the last month, i've been to the doctor over 5 times, have had 4 xrays for numerous "pains", had an ekg and an echocardiogram... began wearing a mouthguard to sleep...
by the end of my list of symptoms, my doctor asked if i was a hypochondriac. i'm not even joking.
this year, has been the year from hell and the stress was most definitely exhibited through physical malaise.
the cause of the stress? that's a whole other thread.
is it better to make a clean break from them or to prolong it?.
i don't have anything other than my own experience to compare with and i made it clean, fast and hard.
it hurt like being stabbed in the back by a best friend but the hurt went away to be replaced with wounds and scars that are still healing.. how about your experience in getting out?
hmmm,
it depends of your circumstances, background, fears... i'm all about "clean breaks", tearing the bandade off with one quick pull - but then the outcome only affects me. leaving the org, in my case, would hurt too many people i care deeply for.
i have heard of this through pms.
to each their own and i can understand the fear-factor - we are only human.
what can they do to ya?
but then, reading how you all came to the point you are currently at, is encouraging.
i have heard of this through pms.
to each their own and i can understand the fear-factor - we are only human.
what can they do to ya?
i'm afraid of being on this site because it means that i've crossed a line, the line. i can't go back to thinking the "truth" is the truth. it's too late, i've questioned too much. but i'm kinda still stuck in the middle. i'm still "in" in body, but my mind feels "out". i'm afraid that i'll say something to betray what i am thinking. i have to lie to my family and wit-friends. and if i can't be truthful with my wit-friends, then they aren't really friends. nor do i have friends on the outside (i suppose that will come in time). i haven't even made any decisive moves yet and have already lost so much. that, in a nutshell, is why i'm afraid.
