Calliope

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  What Are Most JWs Disillusioned Over?

  by minimus in

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  what is their achille's heel?

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  Calliope

  i think you've basically covered it all there, Think.
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  To all active JWs or double life JWs

  by NowImFree in

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  one of the previous posts made me wonder how many active jws post on this site and how many of you are only in because not wanting to lose your family and you are leading a double life and also how many of you are still active but questioning.

  please, all of you, i would like to hear your stories (of course not enough info to give away your identity) and why you are still in.

  i think a lot of us that are out would be interested.. nowimfree.

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  Calliope

  my mom was the liberal wit. my dad the conservative. my mom smoked pot before becoming a wit. my dad has never owned a pair of jeans (as in, used to go to the movies in a suit - of course he's changed since he's had kids who made fun of him for it).

  when they started studying, and subsequently got baptized, i was the oddball child (the baby of the fam) who thought, "cool, that means i'll be really different from all the other kids".

  then i got baptized at 17, started smoking and doing drugs. became a pioneer to ease my troubled, questioning mind, thinking it would redeem me in god's eyes. never made my time. got reproved for "drinking" cause that was all i divulged to the elders (hey, i thought since they're gonna reprove me anyway, i'll just give em part of the story).

  then i got reproved again. same story as above.

  then i started having existential and philosophical questions with my friends. married one of them. he later da-ed himself and i started allowing myself to find answers to these existential questions since he allowed himself to. then he left me.

  and here i am today.

  still drinking and smoking... and other
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  To all active JWs or double life JWs

  by NowImFree in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the previous posts made me wonder how many active jws post on this site and how many of you are only in because not wanting to lose your family and you are leading a double life and also how many of you are still active but questioning.

  please, all of you, i would like to hear your stories (of course not enough info to give away your identity) and why you are still in.

  i think a lot of us that are out would be interested.. nowimfree.

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  Calliope
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  1Cor 5:11 Extortioners...?

  by Scully in

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  1 corinthians 5:11 (nwt) ~ but now i am writing you to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man..

  from www.m-w.com extort.

  one entry found for extort.

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  Calliope

  funny, i was just reading some stuff on the cdrom about this and nearly fell of my chair.

  Jesus

  ’ words recorded at Matthew 18:17 also bear on the matter: "Let [the expelled one] be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector." Jesus’ hearers well knew that the Jews of that day had no fraternization with Gentiles and that they shunned tax collectors as outcasts. Jesus was thus instructing his followers not to associate with expelled ones.

  km 08/02 3-4 uh, first of all, "[the expelled on]" was inserted by the WTS. the bible scripture doesn't have this in there. Second, Jesus sat and ate with tax collectors. am i wrong? i never questioned things like this before and now they're ALL OVER THE PLACE. what the eff?
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  Newbies

  by TallTexan in

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  is it just me, or does there seem to be a flood of new people on the board lately?

  i think it's awesome!.

  welcome to all newcomers.

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  Calliope

  i'm almost no longer a newbie.
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  How did you treat your worldly relatives when you were a JW

  by TallTexan in

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  i had an interesting conversation the other day with a friend who is also an ex-jw.

  this person is older than i am, and was a jw for a number of decades.

  she was talking about worldly relatives that she basically ignored when she was a jw.

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  Calliope

  we were very close to all of our relatives even though they weren't wits.

  personally, even to the point of smoking and doing drugs with them.

  ah... good times.
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  Question for JWs still on the "inside":

  by Hellrider in

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  just a question: if you are still jws (for any reason, many just can`t leave because their entire families are wrapped around it, etc), but don`t believe in it, and lead a "double life", how do you cope with going door to door?

  i just can`t imagine how it must feel like to go out there and try to tell people at the doors or in the streets things you know are just bs!

  how do you deal with that?

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  Calliope

  i think i can safely say some of us find it very difficult to fade 100% from this secret society, and so the masquerade is to show up at some meetings here and there and participate (loosely defined) in the "service".

  i've been trying to figure out this week if i'm gonna actually write "0 hours" for the first time ever, on the report, or if i won't put one in at all. then expect the service overseer to call me and ask my time... i'm trying to figure out if i'm even going to go to the next meeting. should i study the wtower? should i comment at the meeting and keep up the pretense?

  i still feel some kind of guilt (don't ask me to explain, i don't quite understand it myself). sometimes, i just want to throw in the towel, pretend i never started reading CoC or any other aposta-literature and become a pioneer like nothing ever happened.

  arghhhh...

  of the "i'm popping valium" class.
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  No help from the JW brotherhood?

  by greendawn in

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  during your time as jws were there times that you were in need for some help from the jw brotherhood but felt let down because no one cared to help you?

  did you feel resentful and began to suspect that this org is heartless and hypocritical?

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  Calliope

  interesting fact... now that my other-half and i are seperating, my family is pressuring me to talk to my elders. like "they should know what you are going through. they'll be able to help you."

  another fact... it's been 12 months since my other half da-ed himself, and they haven't spoken to me since then... so why again should i initiate a request for their assistance? they're likely to reprove me anyway cause i don't have the "grounds" for a divorce.

  then i was told, "well if you don't talk to the elders, why don't you call bethel?"

  uh... wtf?
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  Can you celebrate your 100th birthday when you are a JW?

  by blondie in

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  as a devout jehovah's witness, mrs. merle is prohibited from celebrating her birthday.

  but a week from tomorrow, relatives and friends will flock to the camoset village country living mobile home park in johnstown to attend a super bowl party that just happens to feature ice cream and cake.. "that's why we're calling it a super bowl party," explained her son bob merle, 73, who lives just five trailers down the road.

  "we don't celebrate birthdays, but we have to celebrate 100 years," said mrs. mechem, 78.

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  Calliope

  WHAT?!??!?! Wits are allowed to attend Super Bowl parties?
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  IT HAS BEGUN "BIG" NEWS ON AP NEWS WIRE

  by DannyHaszard in

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  religion today

  monterey county herald, ca - 2 minutes ago .

  new york - jehovah's witnesses are renowned for teaching that jesus is not god and that the world as we know it will soon end.

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  Calliope

  because of ambiguity in the Bible

  i keep seeing this sentence over and over again.

  the bible? ambiguous? nah... can't be.

  and gregor, holy crap, you totally had me going there. "what, wits swearing in a released statement? This must truly be the end of the system."