hey ... i'm just getting into the swing of this great 'apostasy' thing right ... ?
... i thought y'all out there might well have a story or two to tell, so ... plz tell me tell me tell me about the most embarrasing thing you ever saw at a meeting ...
The funniest thing I ever saw was during a service mtg. - A kid was sitting diagonal across the aisle from me and my brother, so we had been watching him off and on the whole time - you know kids and their antics! Well, suddenly he had projectile puke all over the back of the seat and all over the floor around him ... I think this was the only time my dad didn't get p.o'ed at us kids for cracking up laughing - he was laughing too!
daisymay
when i was a witness:.
i used to think they were materialistic, wordly and didn't raise their kids right.. i used to tell my non-jw husband that if he didn't come to the meetings that we wouldn't be together forever.
i'd say that when he'd say something like "i'll love you forever".
Pierced - thanks for the post - I could see that attitude in so many so-called witnesses especially the women - in my congregation (I never considered myself one in my heart). But I did want to say that one of my younger cousins (who at the time was 12) and I was like a big sis to, you know babysat when he was little, taught him how to tie his shoes, played games, etc. Anyway, I had been disassociated by the JW's for around a year when in the middle of an ordinary conversation he said something like - "how long have you been out of the truth?...yeah, you can tell" and rolled his eyes at me. I don't recall the exact content of the discussion, but I was just blown away at the way he put me down so quickly and easily, he had never talked to me like that before. Oh well, I hope one day he will come around - Josh if your reading - good for you, I love you kid!!
daisy
what are your motives for being here?.
1. to get information.
2. to slam the wtbs at every opportunity.
#1 and #3 (but only if they express a desire to get out)
daisy
it's been 14 years since i was anathmatised at 17 years of age, i was never baptised but they still marked me as dissaproved asociation,it had the same effect as being dissfellowshiped.
this tore my family apart i was satan's child acording to my stepfather want-a-be.
the elders suggested that because i was haveing sexual relations with worldy girls and drinking that it would lead to drug addition jail and homosexuality and destruction at armageton.
Senna - you've received great responses by those of us who have traveled in shoes like yours... :) Bottom line, do what you think is right for you and when it is right for you, but DO it. I mean, try writing everything down - if you feel better - awesome, if that doesn't do it for you, then maybe you should confront them - and you've been given great advise in regards to confronting elders. But in the end, you'll feel so much better having done it your way and moving on afterwards is key to your happiness. Welcome and look forward to hearing from you!
has anyone else heard of the org.
convincing couples not to have children since this world is so "evil" and armagedon was coming so soon and why not wait until after it is over?.
many new couples were told this and those families that kept conceiving were talked about behind their backs.... daisy
Has anyone else heard of the org. convincing couples not to have children since this world is so "evil" and Armagedon was coming so soon and why not wait until after it is over?
Many new couples were told this and those families that kept conceiving were talked about behind their backs...
daisy
i will be traveling to ca w/my husband soon.
for part of the trip, we plan to stay w/ my jw aunt and uncle.
they are very supportive of me and i'm still their favorite niece - even though i am technically "bad association".
thanks for the advise - I don't think there is a big threat, but just in case.... I don't want them planting seeds! I am going to print out your suggested questions and fill him in before they get a chance.
thanks again!
daisy
i will be traveling to ca w/my husband soon.
for part of the trip, we plan to stay w/ my jw aunt and uncle.
they are very supportive of me and i'm still their favorite niece - even though i am technically "bad association".
I will be traveling to CA w/my husband soon. For part of the trip, we plan to stay w/ my JW aunt and uncle. They are very supportive of me and I'm still their favorite niece - even though I am technically "bad association". They do not witness or preach to me, but my concern is for my husband. What if they turn him onto their false beliefs? He doesn't believe in organized religion, but as so many in "the world" is in no way prepared to spar with a JW...your advise would be greatly appreciated!
daisy
can anyone out there ease my mind?
i am about to disassociate myself and feel so scared.
what if i'm making the wrong decision?
Wondering alot and Simon have great points - disassociating yourself is making it easier for the org. It helps them validad that there is something wrong with your departure. If you are still considering leaving the org. - stop attending mtg.s and do some research on your own - if you still think JW's are the way to go - no harm done.
You create your own reality!
daisymay
greetings and salutations!
i've commented a couple times on this post and have hung around for a few weeks and thought i'd tell you a little about myself!
btw...i think this site is awesome and totally therapetic!
You guys have no idea what your responses mean to me! Growing up, although I had "wordly" friends at school, I never felt included or part of the group - I know you know what I mean, I always felt different. Your words are so uplifting! I feel like we've been through some type of spiritual abuse. Really, I don't know what kept me going when thoughts of running away and suicide were a reality - I guess I learned a lot from my mother - you know, not to let other people run your life - you can create your own reality. It was a sad time and outnfree - your right, I do feel guilty about what my dad did to my bro. My bro and I have talked about it many times and he knows how I feel and let's me know it's all in my head. I'm so glad we've got this forum - it is just what the dr. ordered - I look forward to seeing your responses everyday! Talk to you soon!
daisy
greetings and salutations!
i've commented a couple times on this post and have hung around for a few weeks and thought i'd tell you a little about myself!
btw...i think this site is awesome and totally therapetic!
Greetings and Salutations! I've commented a couple times on this post and have hung around for a few weeks and thought I'd tell you a little about myself! BTW...I think this site is awesome and totally therapetic! Anyway, I was raised in the "truth", my mom married my dad at the ripe ole' age of 16 and had 3 kids by the time she was 22! My parents were married 10 years until my mom left my dad for mental abuse to her and physical abuse to my brother. My father was a control freak - he wouldn't let her get a GED or part-time job, etc. My mom was DF'ed for divorcing my dad for other than adulterous reasons. I was only in 3rd grade at the time, but I distinctly remember our "friends" and family shunning us, walking away from my mother, and looking the other way when we approached them. 6 months later, my father re-married a Witness who had 2 kids and gained custody of me, my bro, and sis. He eventually became an Elder who yielded his control expertly. He was very respected in the cong., very funny, and charismatic. At home it was a different story, my family covered up the physical abuse to my brother until one day when I had had enough. I wrote a very vivid letter to my mom describing the beating my bro. was receiving that very moment. My mom forwarded the letter to the cong. and our school. The brothers held a shepherding call at the house w/my dad and step-mom and the issue was blown off. They didn't even consider talking to any of us kids. The school held a mtg. w/my bro. and dad at which my dad started laughing at the insinuation of abuse, and the issue was dropped. The abuse let off a little after that. As I later learned in a Victomology class, the only way abuse can exist in a home is if everyone does their part to keep the secret. I told my father I didn't want to be a JW and he said I was making him look bad and wasn't being an obedient Elder's daughter - what would other's think after-all? I had a "wordly" b-friend at the time - any parent would have loved this guy! A friend of mine in the cong. and I agreed we would never get baptised since that would only lead to being DF'ed - we held up our deal - neither one of us ever got baptised - as you know a MAJOR accomplishment for any JW teen. My father died of cancer shortly after my 16th b-day. My bro, sis., and I moved to WI to live with my mother. The brothers made a visit to our house - the one and only - I told them thank you for the visit and if they ever contacted any one of us kids again my mom would never see us. My mom looked at me and walked them out the door. They never came back. I am so happy to read all of your stories - I feel like a part of a community. When I went to the assemblies and saw "apostates" with signs I would never look - I was so afraid, but now it's so different - it is like a veil has been lifted - and forever! I am also happy to say that I went on to graduate from college and am married to a great person!
Daisy
