Well put, I would throw this out there at tem as well. My brother would get pissed off though, but my family accepts it. As well as the elder body that "knows" me. They leave me alone.
Good post
jojochan.
so, you feel trapped as jehovah's witness and want to get out, but don't know how?
you keep agonizing about your witness family.
and "friends" ( trust me, very few witnesses are really your friends, since their friendship is entirely conditional on meeting attendance.
Well put, I would throw this out there at tem as well. My brother would get pissed off though, but my family accepts it. As well as the elder body that "knows" me. They leave me alone.
Good post
jojochan.
my daughter and her husband told me and her mom last night that she is due december 24th!
it will be our first grandchild.
she'll be 28 and is sooooooo excited!
YYYAAAYYYY!!!! Grampa!!
jojochan.
i know that this is a morbid topic, but i often wonder what kind of funeral that i should have.
i mean, i'm not associated with any religion.
i don't want a preacher there speaking about the afterlife or trying to recruit followers.
I would want those that knew me to do a memorial in my loving memory. Those that want to speak can do so in THEIR own way. I would not want to have an " ordained " minister to talk about my life, but friends, family and those that I loved so much in my life. I would like to think that I had touched lives in my own little way no matter how small and subtle it may have been. So that when I'm gone from this life; they can remember and in turn give back that same positive vibe and love that I had shown to them.
But I will be cremated, and would want my ashes not to be kept in a box, or urn, but be taken to a place that I loved to go to so much and really where I wanted to live which is in Carmel, Ca right on that peninsula drive right by Nepenthe. There I would want them to let me go...let me for once be free to drift in any which way that I choose. They can weep for me, but really that's not what I want, I would want them to celebrate my life, my loves, and my pains, and throw the most drunken wild and sexually charged party in my behalf.
But most of all remember me for me....and know that I'm free now, and that I'll always be in their hearts, every single one.
jojochan.
hey all .
i had one of the worst days yesterday .
anyway i worked on monday 6 hour day, he left me some accounting work which he knows i cant do and office work.
((((es))))
I'm sorry that you had a bad day. But Congrats on you expecting a little "es" running around soon!
much hugs!
jojochan.
comments you will not hear at the april 23, 2006 wt study (march 15, 2006 issue, pages 21-25)(load).
review comments will be in red.
wt material from today's wt will be in black.
This, I could NOT swallow anymore...
) What about having close association with those who may be morally clean but who lack faith in the true God? The Scriptures tell us: "The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." (1 John 5:19) We come to discern that bad associations are not limited to permissive or morally debased people. Hence, we are wise to cultivate close friendships only with those who love Jehovah.
i.e ONLY THOSE OF THE COLLECTIVE!
....and they say they're not a cult.
My parents would throw that in my face each time I made a new friend on the outside when I was young. And they were quick to point out that, "he's not one of us...he won't understand you."
Yeah...I was fed that bull.
I lost so many good friends that way.
jojochan.
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...you're asleep in the back of the hall after the meeting while waiting for your husband to finish up another elders' meeting.
This is also true for an Elders child!
I did that TOO many times.
Also when you know everyones' dirt in the hall and circut.
jojochan.
yesterday after school i had to go work on a project with friends.
mom said be home by 5, but there was a huge accident a mile from where i live, and i sat on the road for like 10 - 12 minutes, and was 5 minutes late getting home.
mom was there (didn't go to work- guess why) and she was pissed.
THEN- this morning- I open my car to find shit strewn everywhere. My school bookbag was completly dumped and the package that I recieved from a poster here was gone. A quick peak in my mom's locked vehicle showed the package laying on her seat. Weird- she never mentioned it last night.Shes playing mind games, and I'm on a team by myself.
Things just took a turn for the worst, and I'm a little scared.
Oh yeah, I got shunned by two people at school today. Awesome!
Damn Rich...Can't you just FEEL the love?
My heart aches for you.
jojochan.
imagine, you are tom cruise/chruch of scientology publicist.
you have a public relations problem - the public thinks tom & his group are wacked out, cult members.. then, tom cruise says to a reporter that he's ready to eat the placenta of his new child after it births.. lol!
this really helps the church of scientology/tom's next movie's popularity.. i realize that today's fathers don't want to wait in a waiting room with a cigar.
? Isn't that a bit gross, canabalistic, and downright . I can't imagine knowing that my father ate my mother's placenta! I can't imagine even imagining that it was "ok" to eat a placenta.Tom Cruise did "back down" from his statement after it hit google.
ROFLMAO!!! I wonder what it would taste like with a pinch of salt, a touch of garlic and onions. With a pat of butter and grilled chicken and apple sausage, with hash browns." Top it off with a tall glass of Kool-Aid ( the red kind)LOL!!!
Everytime I see him i end up laughing my ass off!!! I have been brainwashed to accept his damn foolery by mainstream hollywood.
Hell Yeah I 'll go see M.I. 3! And run home and jump on my couch for personal pleasure!!
jojochan.
i've been disfellowshipped for 4 years now (for loose conduct - lol) .
what i want to know is, what am i supposed to believe now?
i was brought up a jw but i know that so many of their teachings and doctrines are completely false.
You are supposed to believe what the available evidence compels you to believe, whether you wish to or not. Anything else is a betrayal of the intellect.
Exactly. What you have also is alot of good responses her for you to check out. Foe me; I felt that way as well. And many times STILL feel that way.
What I had to do is start at step one:"Me, Myself and I". what IS it that I believe? Then I carry it on from there. It's not as easy as it sounds, but it is a start.
Good luck on your journey.
jojochan.
this is my explanation as to why i met with the elders today.
when i agreed to meet with the elders last week i had made up my mind to just go in and be honest with them.
i was going to tell the elders that i no longer believed this to be the truth, and then i was just going to walk away.
I know that many of you will not understand why I would lie to spare the feelings of people that would shun me simply for having a different view point, and all I can say is that I'm not like them. I won't cause anyone I love pain if I can avoid it, even when I know that they won't do the same for me. I hope you understand but if you don't that's okay. I did what I thought was best.
Lola28...I understand, in fact I know that THAT is what I will face pretty soon as well.
I understand.
jojochan.