i'll tell you one thing that just got to me this morning.
i was playing tennis and at around 9:30 my tennis partner and i looked up and lo and behold!
2 witnesses were walking up the street.
Yeah, that is the way the spanish jw do their time.
Everybody thinks that even if they don't speak with anybody they are givin testimony to the people driving.
That's how I made most of my time for the last two years.
I used to go out with regular pioneers and they didn't even made the attempt to talk to the people.
i'll tell you one thing that just got to me this morning.
i was playing tennis and at around 9:30 my tennis partner and i looked up and lo and behold!
2 witnesses were walking up the street.
I hate their intolerance.
That they feel superior to other people.
i know that the wt quotes carl sagan a lot.
but the other day i was checking the wt cd and was surprised of all the quotes they have from him.. so i was wondering if they had quoted him correctly or out of context?.
i'm sure you guys had discussed this subjet before but right now i don't have time to do research.. thanks;.
I know that the wt quotes Carl Sagan a lot.
But the other day I was checking the wt cd and was surprised of all the quotes they have from him.
So I was wondering if they had quoted him correctly or out of context?
I'm sure you guys had discussed this subjet before but right now I don't have time to do research.
Thanks;
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this is the very 1st memorial where i am making the stand not to go.at this point family & close friends now know my decision.. i am totally against blood issue/shunning/child abuse policy and i am proud of myself for making the stand not to please others and go through the motions with this corrupt & unloving organisation.
hopefully this sends out a message to all who think i am still a jw sympathiser.. please post your 1st time experiences........
I haven't been to meetings since December 05 after 25 years of perfect attendance (well, almost perfect)
I had only two "weak" invitations so I did not compromised, and this certanly it's going to be a stand because I think they are going to see me now like if i had committed the unforgibable sin.
hi my name is lillian and i am posting for my first time.
i was a witness along with my husband and two children for 12 years and gave in my letter of disasociation about a year and a half ago.
i have struggled with the guilt of bringing my family in contact with the witnesses (i have always been a bible searcher) and i am only coming to terms with this recently.. i now consider myself a born again believer in christ jesus and read my bible daily to check and see what is true.
Welcome, and we certanly understand how you feel.
i have a friend who has been inactive as a witness for nearly six years.
yesterday i mentioned that i had wednesday off and wanted to see if they wanted to get something done wednesday, we had been trying to find time for, for awhile now.
out of the blue, they said "i can't, the memorial is wednesday.
I'm not attending. But I agree with undercovered....
If attending will bring peace in my family I'll do it!!!!!
But fortunately my husband is out, my kids are teenagers and haven't been to meetings for about 2 years and they are happy I'm out.
In my cong. they used to call the ones that only attended once a year "Submarines" because they only surfaced once in a while.
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cuantos de ustedes llegan aqui y desean participar pero no puden debido a que no hablan ingles??
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My first language is spanish so I comunicate much better in spanish and there are so many topics that I don't participate because of the language. But I like it here because I have been to one spanish forum and they don't grasp the concept of being ex witness as you guys do.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the ones that had answered to my posts and questions.
this forum had helped me a lot in dealing with my emotions, no one like you guys can understand how it feels to be in an organization for 25 years, trusting them, doing everything by the rules and all of a sudden discover that everything is a lie.
I felt sooo dumb for trusted them.
But I'm getting over it little by little.
Thank you all.
as a witness, most if not all of my friends were married by 18, with many woman married by 17. it was so normal, that when i left the religion and met all these people married in their 20's and later, that it seemed like they were starting late.
i actually was a late person in getting married, i was 23. i remember being one of the few people my age in the congregation, not married yet.
i actually remember thinking, where am i going to find someone to marry, that is not yet taken.
Well, I got married at 15 and my husband was 19.
We were not witnesses at that time (not until 2 years later).
We are still happily married!!!!
I can say that we are the exception and not the norm so that is why I always discouraged all the girls in the congregation to marry early.
I even told one of them when she was 13 that if she married in 10 more years I will buy the cake for her weding. (she paid attention to that and she is now 23)
So I think I 'm going to give her the money instead because I'm not attending meetings anymore and I want to keep my promise.
so, i finally had my first elder visit after 3 months!!!.
he showed up unannounced on saturday around 9:30 am but i was still on bed so i did not answered the door.
i thought that he wont come back but to my surprise he showed up again around 10:30 and this time i couldn't get away with not anwering because i had the music on plus my door has a window and he saw me in the living room.. he was by himself, (which is a big no,no,) when visiting a sister.. he was not very pushy, he said they miss me at the meetings, blah,blah,blah.. you won't believe what was his reasoning to justify that the end was near!.
So, I finally had my first elder visit after 3 months!!!
He showed up unannounced on Saturday around 9:30 am but I was still on bed so I did not answered the door.
I thought that he wont come back but to my surprise he showed up again around 10:30 and this time I couldn't get away with not anwering because I had the music on plus my door has a window and he saw me in the living room.
He was by himself, (which is a big NO,No,) when visiting a sister.
He was not very pushy, he said they miss me at the meetings, blah,blah,blah.
You won't believe what was his reasoning to justify that the end was near!
He said "look all the protest going around, when have we seen that before?" "all this is sign that we are in the last days and the clay feet of the image is showing more and more" "pretty soon the image is going to fall down"
I just listened and told him that for the moment I don't have any desire to attend the meetings, maybe I was going to a depression or menopause.
I told him to call next time before coming.
My husband told me to next time tell him to call ahead of time because he wants to be present when he visits.
i guess i shouldn't be surprised at this, but my dub sister told me this morning that at the meeting last night, they had a "local needs" about whether or not "christian" parents should enroll their kids in any summer camps, or recreational activities that colleges and universities offer each year.
the list of activities the kids can do are numerous and to me, they are an excellent source that could really help develop a child's talents, expose them to the wonders of science, art, engineering, etc., develop skills that would obviously be of benefit to them both now and in later life, and give them a chance to meet new friends from other schools in the area.
anyway, while not out and out forbidding it, these activities are being very much frowned upon.
Well, I recently stopped attending meetings and my kids are big now, but I did send them on those camps trips sponsored by the school. (I wish I had sent them to others, but..)
What I did with my youngest one, was to enroll him in pop warner football and that helped him a lot on developing self steem and confidence. (my oldest was enroll in basketball)
Later on when he was in high school he also enrolled in wrestling and that helped him a lot because that is more of an individual sport and even if the team lost he can still come back home with some medals for his individual matches.
Of course that i have to sit through meetings and hear special needs talks about extracurriculum activities and all the horrible things that happened at the locker rooms, bla,bla,bla,
