i looked into my revelation book the one used at the kingdom hall it says that the wild beast name is actually a number the three sixes 666 indicate severe imperpection.nebachenezzar made an image 6 cubits in breadth,60 cubits high.this image was meant to get all his political officials to get together and worship the same thing.which makes sense because the wild beast represent a conglomerate of nations all unified to [not yet of course because they cant seem to agree on anything]worship mans rule over man so jehovah regards this as fighting against jesus'rule which means that the united nations is an antichrist.just like it sounds anti-christ .
Posts by ezra
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368The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?
by Schizm inas shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
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Stoping the Watchtower hardcore
by Genesis inas anyone thought of hardcore ways to stop the wt quickly and firmly?
sure there is things like killing the gb or placing a bomb in the brooklyn bethel but these ways are strongly not acceptable and the jw would think that the great tribulation arrived.... .
i was thinking of things like : .
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ezra
by the way i am one of the hardcore .i bet you wouldnt say that to our faces.hiding behind a computer usually is the common tactic used for hate propaganda by the way hate crimes are also illegal.i guess jehovah covered the loopholes .huh.
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Stoping the Watchtower hardcore
by Genesis inas anyone thought of hardcore ways to stop the wt quickly and firmly?
sure there is things like killing the gb or placing a bomb in the brooklyn bethel but these ways are strongly not acceptable and the jw would think that the great tribulation arrived.... .
i was thinking of things like : .
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ezra
i am suprised that you would use a bible book as your nickname lokk heres an easy way to deal with jehovahs witnesses if you dont like the message than dont listen just like we have to deal with disgusting programming on tv you dont like it dont listen and by the way discussing terrorist activities on the web is a federal offense and you could really go to jail for quite some time for making this post.now hmm.....discussing killing people because you dont like their beliefs that sounds anti american to me.
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Elders playing GOOD COP - BAD COP.....Test your knowledge HERE!
by Trojan inmany of you have notices how the pictures in the literature have "subliminal" messages (not hidden pictures, i mean subtle messages to the mind).
here's a little, fun test:.
who's the bad guy in the picture and why do you say so?.
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ezra
well the person thats probably the bad guy for posting something thats copyrighted and doesnt belong to them .
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Why Do Some "JWs" Do This???..........
by minimus ini know of some witnesses that haven't go out in service or attended a meeting in years.
most "new ones" (to them and they could be witnesses for 10 years!
) that live in the territory have no clue of these "witnesses".
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ezra
by the way there are a couple of reasons we are tortured but not sad souls PERSECUTION.i dont know if you forgot that that goes along with being faithful.as far as sad ,we experience emotions just like you do ,most active witnesses would never dream of since they were told by the governing body not to go to sites like these but since i am disfellowshipped ,i'll speak in their defense since they are not present to defend themselves .we are happy with jehovahs arrangement,because it is a protection for us .it keeps us safe from contamination in the world.you know the world under satans influence.you know the guy that would prefer that we would die because he hates jehovah god.i tell you one thing if you walked into a room of worldly people and a room of jehovahs witnesses you would immediatley see the difference the gap in kindness and compassion is so vast its scary.im disfellowshipped and i recently started attending meetings .and they try to encourage me with smiles and are polite ,and frankly they are tickled that im going back.now i dont know where all these stories about witnesses treating disfellowshipped witnesses come from .but i never have seen it happen.they are kind ,courteous,and were actually worried that some of make it back.i think the problem is the fact that some want to go back because of the association,but never really developed a relationship with jehovah god.there could .or maybe the ones that are unhappy with the disfellowshipping arrangement are the ones that got caught in wrongdoing and not the ones that turned themselves in .
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Why Do Some "JWs" Do This???..........
by minimus ini know of some witnesses that haven't go out in service or attended a meeting in years.
most "new ones" (to them and they could be witnesses for 10 years!
) that live in the territory have no clue of these "witnesses".
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chimene why would you say something like that .i went to all the meetings at times put 120 hours of service in ,attended all conventions.i didnt do that because i was a hypocrit ,i did it because i owed jehovah god for the information he made available to me and because he deserves my obedience ,its the least i ccould do but it wasnt much,plus i worked full time.saying we are hypocrits is like saying you never wrote this post.
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Why Do Some "JWs" Do This???..........
by minimus ini know of some witnesses that haven't go out in service or attended a meeting in years.
most "new ones" (to them and they could be witnesses for 10 years!
) that live in the territory have no clue of these "witnesses".
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ezra
there could be alot of reasons problems with health,depression,fear of service.faitgue,persecution.they are regulaaly visited by the elders .i'm disfellowshipped and for a while i didnt go back but just returned because of severe persecution,but during that time i did not have sex outside of marraige,didnt celebrate the holidays,its because we are so convinced that its the truth that we dont wish to go back to the world and its ways
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Baptism for the dead
by M.J. inwhat on earth was paul talking about in 1 cor 15:29: "now if there is no resurrection, what will those do who are baptized for the dead?
if the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized for them?".
it's one of his main arguments for a bodily resurrection to the corinthians.
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when jesus was baptized he received jehovahs holy spirit .the significant thing is that he was anniointed in revelation the 7th or 114th chapter it mentions that 144,ooo would be joint heirs with christ for a kingdom.most first century christians fall into this category firdt they received water baptism but later they were annointed with jehovahs holy spirit which made their heavenly hope possible they were baptized into his death because you have to die to receive the heavenly ressurection.thats why you see some watchtower articles that say some would never taste death at all there will be some that will be living during the end of this system of things that will live on without ever having to die but dont worry those who fall asleep in death that are not annointed will also have the prospect of ressurestion and everlasting life.so thats why you got to die to go to heaven not neccessary for those for an earthly hope just depends whether you make it ot the time when he acts upon this wicked system of things i am sure that will clear things up
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Wikipedia needs your help with Eschatology & History of JW's
by joshbuddy inthere are a number of wikipedia articles which are crappy, and some good writers who care about good neutral articles about jw's could certainly help.. i'll mention three that could really use some help.. history of jehovah's witnesses.
eschatology of jehovah's witnesses.
olin r. moyle.
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ezra
your best bet is to contact jehovahs witnesses locally they would be more than happy to share that info with you there is a brochure that give a brief but detailed overview of the history of jehovahs witnesses there is also a book that we use in our studies that discusses more in depth the history of the watchtower society it is called the proclaimers book.ask them theyll help you to fil;l in the gaps of what you know plus there are alot of people that dislike us so its really best to hear from us .dont worry alot of people say terrible things about us but if all you want is that info they wont consider you obligated
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Contradiction in NWT
by Desino inunder which name must christians be saved?
well according to wts it is jehovah.
this is written in joel 2: 32 (read nwt).
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ezra
you need first to understand what it means to call upon the name of jehovah in order to call upon him you have to be in line with bible principles to be able to call on him in the first place a only those that obey jehovah can call upon him .to call upon him we have to pray to him in order for our prayers to be heard we have to be obedient also to call upon him means we follow his scriptural principles and so forth in the bible and act on them jesus is the salvation that jehovah supplied to us if we reach out for that salvation he bought back with his perfect life what adam has tossed away a perfect life for a perfect life thus ransom sacrifice to make it simpler look how we pray we address our prayers to jehovah god then we pray for things that are scripturally acceptable trto him the most important thing is our spirituality and things that will affect our worship to gain help from his holy spirit but at the end of all our prayers we pray through jesus name because his sacrifice makes it possible to approach jehovah directly thus no more need ofr animal sacrifices.what jesus spoke about on earth was about his father and the kingdom that was his focus so calling on jehovah to be saved in a nutshell means being obedient but we also must recognize and have faith in jesus sacrifice because without that sacrifice there would be no salvation .