i had the same feeling.youre expecting at the very least disfellowshipped ones seeking association but all you find are those that do intense bible research and are looking for answers,disfellowshipped and unhappy with the organization,or apostates.the point is they are not jehovahs witnesses .jehovahs witnesses do not slam jehovah god or the organization he is guiding.they hate us and him.simple as that.
Posts by ezra
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33I am trying to be so good & not just rant & rave at this JW board
by justsayin in.
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http://p097.ezboard.com/bspiritualjourneys84479
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Has the Rutherford class all passed on, and JW's bury his beliefs ?
by run dont walk inmy family mentioned that there is no reason to read older publications when new ones are available,.
it got me thinking, as the 1914 generation is all but gone, what about the rutherford witnesses, how many are still around that were witnesses when rutherford was king, he died in 1942, that would make the youngest 64, as a baby, providing they were a witness, and at the time there was probaly only 300,000 - 500,000 witnesses max.. with no one around do jw's simply just disregard his beliefs ??
?, will the same happen with franz's beliefs in 30 or 40 years ?.
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ezra
there are still in the area of 8000 annointed on earth today and if you recall there was a convention a few years back that answered your question.they are now currently training qualified ones to step in their shoes.you have to remember that its jehovahs holy spirit that guides the organization not the brothers.you also know that the bible says that jehovah would step in [armegeddon]for the sake of his annointed ones so there will be some left at the time of the end.i will tell you what the older publications are good for .a brother once gave me a ton of watchtowers from the 50's,60's and they were very powerful,they did not mince words especially when they dealt with christendom,you actually had the feeling that you should duck while jehovah was pronouncing judgement upon them,its like you were there.very good reading
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Editor still looking for someone in Sacramento for No-Blood issue.....
by Bryan ini'll look into this and see if i can find a local angle--we need someone in the greater sacramento area who has a personal stake in this to make a story work.
i don't suppose you have any contacts here that would be willing to talk to a reporter?
ah, well, too much to ask, i guess.. .
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ezra
why dont you contact the local kingdom hall in your area and they might link you up with the hospital liason committee .those are the brothers that speak to doctors to help them provide non-blood methods .we had a topic of discussion of blood issue in the kingdom hall last night and it might be important that you also include in your dialogue about how many people who are not jehovah's witnesses refuse blood transfusions and why
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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?
by Schizm inas shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
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ezra
i looked into my revelation book the one used at the kingdom hall it says that the wild beast name is actually a number the three sixes 666 indicate severe imperpection.nebachenezzar made an image 6 cubits in breadth,60 cubits high.this image was meant to get all his political officials to get together and worship the same thing.which makes sense because the wild beast represent a conglomerate of nations all unified to [not yet of course because they cant seem to agree on anything]worship mans rule over man so jehovah regards this as fighting against jesus'rule which means that the united nations is an antichrist.just like it sounds anti-christ .
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Stoping the Watchtower hardcore
by Genesis inas anyone thought of hardcore ways to stop the wt quickly and firmly?
sure there is things like killing the gb or placing a bomb in the brooklyn bethel but these ways are strongly not acceptable and the jw would think that the great tribulation arrived.... .
i was thinking of things like : .
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ezra
by the way i am one of the hardcore .i bet you wouldnt say that to our faces.hiding behind a computer usually is the common tactic used for hate propaganda by the way hate crimes are also illegal.i guess jehovah covered the loopholes .huh.
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Stoping the Watchtower hardcore
by Genesis inas anyone thought of hardcore ways to stop the wt quickly and firmly?
sure there is things like killing the gb or placing a bomb in the brooklyn bethel but these ways are strongly not acceptable and the jw would think that the great tribulation arrived.... .
i was thinking of things like : .
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ezra
i am suprised that you would use a bible book as your nickname lokk heres an easy way to deal with jehovahs witnesses if you dont like the message than dont listen just like we have to deal with disgusting programming on tv you dont like it dont listen and by the way discussing terrorist activities on the web is a federal offense and you could really go to jail for quite some time for making this post.now hmm.....discussing killing people because you dont like their beliefs that sounds anti american to me.
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Elders playing GOOD COP - BAD COP.....Test your knowledge HERE!
by Trojan inmany of you have notices how the pictures in the literature have "subliminal" messages (not hidden pictures, i mean subtle messages to the mind).
here's a little, fun test:.
who's the bad guy in the picture and why do you say so?.
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ezra
well the person thats probably the bad guy for posting something thats copyrighted and doesnt belong to them .
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Why Do Some "JWs" Do This???..........
by minimus ini know of some witnesses that haven't go out in service or attended a meeting in years.
most "new ones" (to them and they could be witnesses for 10 years!
) that live in the territory have no clue of these "witnesses".
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by the way there are a couple of reasons we are tortured but not sad souls PERSECUTION.i dont know if you forgot that that goes along with being faithful.as far as sad ,we experience emotions just like you do ,most active witnesses would never dream of since they were told by the governing body not to go to sites like these but since i am disfellowshipped ,i'll speak in their defense since they are not present to defend themselves .we are happy with jehovahs arrangement,because it is a protection for us .it keeps us safe from contamination in the world.you know the world under satans influence.you know the guy that would prefer that we would die because he hates jehovah god.i tell you one thing if you walked into a room of worldly people and a room of jehovahs witnesses you would immediatley see the difference the gap in kindness and compassion is so vast its scary.im disfellowshipped and i recently started attending meetings .and they try to encourage me with smiles and are polite ,and frankly they are tickled that im going back.now i dont know where all these stories about witnesses treating disfellowshipped witnesses come from .but i never have seen it happen.they are kind ,courteous,and were actually worried that some of make it back.i think the problem is the fact that some want to go back because of the association,but never really developed a relationship with jehovah god.there could .or maybe the ones that are unhappy with the disfellowshipping arrangement are the ones that got caught in wrongdoing and not the ones that turned themselves in .
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Why Do Some "JWs" Do This???..........
by minimus ini know of some witnesses that haven't go out in service or attended a meeting in years.
most "new ones" (to them and they could be witnesses for 10 years!
) that live in the territory have no clue of these "witnesses".
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chimene why would you say something like that .i went to all the meetings at times put 120 hours of service in ,attended all conventions.i didnt do that because i was a hypocrit ,i did it because i owed jehovah god for the information he made available to me and because he deserves my obedience ,its the least i ccould do but it wasnt much,plus i worked full time.saying we are hypocrits is like saying you never wrote this post.
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Why Do Some "JWs" Do This???..........
by minimus ini know of some witnesses that haven't go out in service or attended a meeting in years.
most "new ones" (to them and they could be witnesses for 10 years!
) that live in the territory have no clue of these "witnesses".
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ezra
there could be alot of reasons problems with health,depression,fear of service.faitgue,persecution.they are regulaaly visited by the elders .i'm disfellowshipped and for a while i didnt go back but just returned because of severe persecution,but during that time i did not have sex outside of marraige,didnt celebrate the holidays,its because we are so convinced that its the truth that we dont wish to go back to the world and its ways