Posts by wozadummy

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My Story

by jwfacts in

i received an email from a lawyer who has been studying with witnesses for some time.

he wanted to know my story, if i am disfellowshipped and if i have an axe to grind, in order to know if the information at jwfacts.com can be trusted.

i was raised a jw, my aunty and uncle, many cousins and grandparents are jws.

wozadummy

Well done JWfacts it took courage to see clearly the oppression the WTS forced on you growing up and now expressing what you feel now upon leaving that menacing influence.

Let's hope the person sees thru the crap as well.

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Were you or someone you know sexually molested by a Jehovah's Witness ?

by flipper in

due to the fact there are about 27,000 members of this religion that are known pedophiles, and the information about it is kept in a secret database file, i wonder how many lurking jw's as well as others are aware of the severity of this problem?

remember, it's 27,000 pedophiles that they know about.

what about the thousands that don't get caught?

wozadummy

Certainly reading others advice and experiences can be beneficial.

My wife molested in and out of the JW's

Me, outside but it helped me understand her issues and surprisingly what happened to her and talking about it has helped heal me too.

We really have compassion for those partners who have had not been molested and later confront this when revealed within the relationship ,it must be hard to fathom.

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what was the strangest/worst counsel you recieved from elders ?

by flipper in

jw
friends

having been in the organization for 30 years, after i got out i reflected on this.

as a teenager i was told to not let my hair grow over my ears because i might stumble other young ones in the congregation.

also, in order to carry the microphones i was told i couldn't wear white socks, had to wear black or dark blue socks.

wozadummy

Worst counsel-

Some years ago my wife and I tried to get her once elder father to confess to incest for a long time on my wife. He was brought before a committee denied all much to our shock and dissapointment ,we hoping he'd confess and gain everlasting life.

The elders told us there was nothing else to do but this - "move interstate it will be better for you"

We foolishly did and moved near my wifes brother ,it was for a few years and the local elders avoided our ongoing concerns about how her case was handled.They were about as glad to help as the other elder body was to send us interstate,we always thought their advice was from Jehovah and we were dissillusioned for years.

When my father was dying I decided we'd move back to be with him ,and adding insult to injury my wifes brother's wife told my wife she was disloyal for going back home!

What loving christian concern from the brothers! When we came back the elders had the hide to enquire what on earth would make us come back! It was making it awkward for them for her father had been doing quick builds ,having book studies etc all those years!

This is for the lurkers - where was Jehovahs direction and spirit? Why is it that none of the rest of the children in her family were ever questioned by the elders?

Why is it that the only people to listen and give good advice was the police and now the lawyers handling my wifes case? All her family have abandoned her including those also molested or witnesses to it?

Just as well I love her for noone who calls themself god or a JW has or does ,where was the divine elder counsel when she needed it?

And remember this is only one case of bad counsel ,no wonder we and others leave.

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ex-JW's in Melbourne?

by Run,dont walk! in

jw
friends

hi everyone, i just joined this forum, am starting to go through the stories & info & hoping this will be a good support channel (i have heaps to discuss& vent lol).

i don't have the energy to go through my life story (yet!

), but basically i've left the organisation, which was a gradual yet sudden process.

wozadummy

Hi Kimberley,

I'm Steve and from Adelaide ,and I have gained so much knowlege and encouragement from this site, you are'nt alone there are quite a few Oz here and some from Victoria ,that is if you are from the Oz Melbourne.Welcome and enjoy the company!

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NOT AGAIN! That's right folks, once again we are now 'very close' 2 the end

by needproof in

jw
friends

i have received word that we are now 'very, very close'.

at the sunday meeting, according to my trusted source, the speaker actually said that 'it is no longer years, nor months - yet weeks and days'.

so they need you back, now!

wozadummy

Wonder if they will bring back the ~~6 month study~~ er sorry...the 6 hour study to get em in quick , and if they don't respond ...well they are ~~goats~~ oops ...no they are to be judged at the great tribulation as goats...er oh hell we've got so little time to bring in the sheep for the master Jehovah ....er i mean Jesus ...er you know what I mean

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Attention former elders and ms: I have a question.

by R.F. in

i'm currently a ministerial servant and pioneer in my congregation.

i want to begin my fade soon.

i'm going to get off the pioneer list first instead of quitting both positions at once, hopefully to ease potential gossip.

wozadummy

RF just tell them your fiance is giving you trouble ,and the dumbos will knowingly say "ah yes we know what that's like"

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Does A School Yard Bully Attitude Take Over This Discussion Board?

by The wanderer in

jw
friends

does a school yard bully attitude take over this discussion board?growing up, i can recall such times when a rival would want to pick a fight .

with me and when we met, he would bring along two of his friends and i .

sometimes, i would knock their block off and sometimes, it was the other.

wozadummy

Wanderer don't worry about what Gregor says ,he's going thru MANAPAUSE ,at his age he must have a niggling prostate

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Sixteen Child Sex Abuse Lawsuits against Jehovahs Witnesses Are Settled

by Dogpatch in

press release 5/10/07.

http://www.freeminds.org/history/16lawsuits.htm.

sixteen child sex abuse lawsuits against jehovahs witnesses are settled.

wozadummy

Well MAD you're one reason I discourage my wife from this site ...you see she's the victim of a JW Elder for years when she was little ,and since we've been married and dealt with the WTS over this for many years, we know that what other victims have to say about the way the WTS treated them is dead correct for we have experienced the futility of trying to co-exist in this religion with the perpetrator being treated as innocent and being protected by the local Elders .

They have even gone to the extent of threatening a dear old pioneer sister with dismissal from her "privelege" for even mentioning pedophilia locally occuring ,and especially my wifes case!

The perpetrator was arrested some time ago but is on bail pending evidence accumulation etc and the witnesses in his hall are none the wiser to him being a pervert.

He's even had book studies at his home and helped with quick builds since he was turned in to a commitee over twelve years ago. As has been noted here alot of JW's are like ostrichs because the truth challenges their faith,so they turn their backs on those that need christian love more than anyone!

If my wife read your post she would be made sick I'm sure and I thank Simon for restricting your blind and cruel words to those damaged by WTS policy.

It may be true when JW's say they did'nt personally cause the perverted damage ,but then saying you are part of a loving worldwide organisation of brotherly love and then denying any voice and justice to victims within ,even to the point of silencing them with threats of disfellowshipping is just as perverted to me ....you ignorant foolish person ...does God really have compassion for you now!

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All you ex-military, check it out...

by troucul in

jw
friends

when i was in the borg, i had no idea of the stories my grandparents (both wwii vets) were telling me.

now that i've done my tour, and can relate to some the stories that these 'weirdo war vets' have told me, i'm starting to get it.

here's some thoughts...

wozadummy

Well carla Hemingway did'nt have it right did he? Japan prospered at least financially after the war and did'nt have a God like dictator ruling them after WW11

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The Trinity ( arguement to end all arguments I hope )

by 5go in

i pretty much don't think much of christendom.

but why do christians insist on holding such an unholdable position with the trinity.. the bible i agree holds proof for both trinity and nontrinity positions.. i still don't get why that christians other than catholics would hold such an untenable position as god came down to earth but didn't, and he prayed ( talked ) to himself a lot.. .

i remember a comedy sketch were some kids were stumping a nun in catholic school with question on the trinity and the eurachrist..

wozadummy

Hard then is'nt it ,to search for the so called right christian religion and have total confidence in it, and accept it when faced with that at the very core of christianity is this mish mash of explaining god who christians hold up as the the great revealer of secrets?

With so many highly intelligent scholastic people in history having examined the bible ,and we still see there's no agreement on who god really is ,what hope do us ordinary people of this planet have in picking up the bible ,reading it ,and then confidently say .....yes this is god and I "know" him?

Puzzling is'nt it?