Some years ago when we were going to build a Kingdom hall one of the Elders put it to the publishers discreetly that they could come to his almond orchard and pick the crop and he would donate the money to the hall fund. It was forbidden to talk about it at the meetings and the event definitely not to be mentioned from the platform.Oooo it was so naughty to talk about it at meetings . The decision was made after this to never allow an event like this again with no real reason expressed. Weird huh!
wozadummy
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New fundraising methods for the WTBTS!
by Gill inyoung people ask ' how can i help those in need?
awake aug 2006
now i remember when we were jws and raising funds for a new kh, the money had to come from publishers pockets.
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1914 BREATHTAKING BLASPHEME
by DannyHaszard inarticulator manipulator
the "truth" is worth lying for
breathtaking blaspheme!
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wozadummy
Phew is it getting hotter in here or is it just me?
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Forgiveness the JW way -is'nt right!
by wozadummy infor many years it troubled me the way the watchtower handled the matter of forgiveness.. from the bible we gain the insight that jehovah forgives ,and is always ready to forgive, people who approach him repentently .. but it always seemed to me that when articles were commenting on how we should always be ready to forgive others ,we had to extend it beyond even what jehovah does and try to make ourselves forgive even those that expressed no remorse over what they did to us :.
to keep peace.
to move ahead .
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wozadummy
Thanks for the comments ,they really show there is something amiss in the org.
I think it is probably the foundation for their problems in handling people properly when problems come up. So judgementall and yet can't see their own error which leads to so many leaving dissallusioned.
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Forgiveness the JW way -is'nt right!
by wozadummy infor many years it troubled me the way the watchtower handled the matter of forgiveness.. from the bible we gain the insight that jehovah forgives ,and is always ready to forgive, people who approach him repentently .. but it always seemed to me that when articles were commenting on how we should always be ready to forgive others ,we had to extend it beyond even what jehovah does and try to make ourselves forgive even those that expressed no remorse over what they did to us :.
to keep peace.
to move ahead .
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wozadummy
For many years it troubled me the way the watchtower handled the matter of forgiveness.
From the Bible we gain the insight that Jehovah forgives ,and is always ready to forgive, people who approach HIM repentently .
But it always seemed to me that when articles were commenting on how we should always be ready to forgive others ,we had to extend it beyond even what Jehovah does and try to make ourselves forgive even those that expressed no remorse over what they did to us :
to keep peace
to move ahead
to emulate God & Jesus
to show love for the brotherhood and blah blah blah
This always seemed unreasonable to me , to expect more from us than what even god is willing to do! When I asked others about this naturally the point was avoided.
So let's give a scenario:
Elder abuses with swearing and serious lies and calls a person a dishonest cheat with slander in front of 3 JW witnesses. The basis of his accusations is totally untrue and the person tries to reason with the Elder and the Elder promptly tells the person to go away and never speak to him again!
The person goes and can"t fulfill the scriptures completely because he can't have a meeting with that Elder because he is prohibited.Person seeks help from congo overseer, meeting arranged at Kingdom hall with commitee, Elder rings person in the morning and mocks person and refuses to go to commitee as CO says he does'nt have to .
Meeting goes ahead any way with embarrased committee and 3 witnesses who saw even worse things after the first event. Result - Elder continues even till today 4 years later gaining more prominence but still no apology. Iff a publisher did this he would be DF';d
So how can the person be expected to forgive in these or maybe worse or even less circumstances?
anyone help? opinions please?
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Just thought this would be of interest to share.
by meatloaf inwhy have such a large family?
when we are out together we get questions like is this a school group?, are they all yours?, are you catholic or mormon?, dont you know what causes this?
these questions give us many opportunities to share with others the hope that is in us, that children are a gift from god.
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wozadummy
Sorry unbeliever did I sound a bit cynical?
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Just thought this would be of interest to share.
by meatloaf inwhy have such a large family?
when we are out together we get questions like is this a school group?, are they all yours?, are you catholic or mormon?, dont you know what causes this?
these questions give us many opportunities to share with others the hope that is in us, that children are a gift from god.
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wozadummy
Oh yeah.....15.............oh thank you Lord for providing this blessing that the government can pay for thru Welfare payments!!!
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Early menopause
by MsMcDucket ini just found out today that i'm in menopause.
i haven't had a menstrual cycle in over a year.
here's my dilemma?
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wozadummy
Jeez I think I got mAnapause
I think I"m a bit late in life but hey ya learn ta live with it
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J.Manuel Cano in Watchtower Literature
by GermanXJW ini have searched the watchtower library with no results.
but since cano was a bethel elder serving in walkill, even being sent abroad as a watchtower representative there could be a chance that there is a picture of him in the literature or that he was a model for some bible character.
would be hard to find but maybe someone has inside information?
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wozadummy
In the picture ,is'nt Cano the soldier who is just about to bend over and take it up the butt for the WTS?
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Called JR Brown regarding Cano Pedophile situation
by LDH injust called their media line:.
http://www.jw-media.org/contact.htm.
asked a young man named bryce where is the official press release on the cano pedophile situation.
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wozadummy
LDH - Wow & thanks
Blondie
So he is DF'd.........that means he either confessed to the elders.........or they had 2 reliable (JW) eyewitnesses to his crime........hmmmmmmmmmmm
Excellent point....you ladies are unbelievable!!
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In Temple?
by peacefulpete innothing dramatic but just had a question to toss out.
the question is then, why would the author of matthew (23-24) remove a beautiful story like the widow's mite (mark 12-13)?.
edited .
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wozadummy
Surely Leoliai qualifies to be one of the Celebrated Watchtower Scholars!