When I was a witness occasionly I would talk to one when witnessing and their teachings are pretty similar to JW's as I recall. They don't so much depend on the hierarchial system as JW's and I think they teach that Satan is the evil within all of us ,hence i would say to them that made Jesus imperfect then, since when he was tempted by Satan they say that it was the evil within ,the account was only an illustration in the sense he did'nt actually talk to Satan but was actually fighting the evil within himself, therefore i would say to them that invalidated the ransom sacrifice. It's a long time ago I hope I have'nt got my religions mixed up
wozadummy
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Are Christadelphians the Faithful Discreet Slave?
by M.J. inprior to the "passing inspection" by christ , the international bible students:had no prohibition against birthdayshad no prohibitions against holidays such as christmasbelieved that all true christians went to heavenhad no prohibition to participating in governmenthad no prohibition against votinghad no prohibition against joining the military.
christadelphians had, at least for half a century before the watchtower, prohibited birthdays, "pagan holidays", government involvement, voting, participating in war and joining the military.
they also taught that true christians would not go to heaven but will inhabit a paradise on earth.. rutherford eventually instituted all these teachings.
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Did You Get To "Handle The Microphones"???
by minimus inwere you one of those deemed "qualifed for this privilege":??
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wozadummy
Oh yes the cleavage view it was embarrassing for all concerned ,but there would fun times like pulling faces at kids seated next to their parents ,and then the kid would laugh and a parent would elbow them in the ribs. Once I was standing with the mike at the back waiting to move when an almighty fart was on it's way down ...what do I do? give the mike to someone else ?no, all sisters around me. oh jeez don't ask anyone to answer ion my side of the hall now!!!cheeks tightly clenched....oh no not my side ..move forward ...braaaaaah!!!! too late! oh hell the embarassment and fallout .I'm totally red right now!
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Do JWs eat shrimp, crab, lobster, clams, and mussels?
by sacolton ini'll play devil's advocate.... true, the mosaic law code prohibited the eating of blood.
but jesus fulfilled the law covenant thus wiping out all the laws previously set.
but then later, (through god's spirit, of course wink wink) the abstaining of blood was again brought to followers of christ.
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wozadummy
Good Question WHA ,when I fish in winter here locally for our sea salmon we put a cut near the tailfin and break their blood supply at the same time by bending their head back to immediately kill them and release all the red blood quickly ,this way the flesh tastes better but it is not the case with most fish caught as they die of suffocation. So JW's eat alot of fish blood.
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2/3rds leave the Borg!
by Number1Anarchist intime.comcnn.com monday, september 01, 2008 .
america's unfaithful faithfulmonday, feb. 25, 2008 by david van biemaaladdin color, inc. / corbis a major new survey presents perhaps the most detailed picture we've yet had of which religious groups americans belong to.
and its big message is: blink and they'll change.
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wozadummy
Wow too. I'd like to a report on how many of todays transient religions started in the USA
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JWs and date setting - Quote from the UK's Sun Newspaper - 2nd Sept 2008
by passwordprotected incolumn in 2nd sept 2008 issue of the sun (tacky-ish uk red top tabloid newpaper) by the excellent bill leckie.
writing about doomsday prophets, he states the following;.
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wozadummy
Nice observation by the SUN bringing forth a bit of "new light" for the world
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If Daniel Had Been Governed by WT Doctrine and Policy ...
by compound complex inisocf, "legalism - opponent of christian freedom," page 273: i think of this [daniel and his three companions' responding to their pagan names when addressed] when recalling some of the extreme measures witnesses have felt obliged to take to demonstrate "strict neutrality," "complete separateness from the world," primarily as a result of the organization's highly sensitizing them by its categorizing policies.
there is an inordinate concern for how things will appear, rather than what the reality is.
in the modern state of israel, witnesses who refused military service were imprisoned.
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wozadummy
It's an interesting point you make CoCo ,and yet the three after being appointed by Daniel as overseers of Babylon (Dan ch2 vs 48,49) showed considerable strength in Dan ch3 by refusing to bow down to Nebuchadnezzars gold image and were thrown into the fiery furnace. Surely this is equal to the 20th century JW martyrs ,and yet in this book of Daniel we find another inconsistency....Daniel was esteemed worthy to have incredible power over Nebuchadnezzars realm and yet iff you read chapter three of Daniel ,all the rulers of the jurisdictional areas of the the Babylonian kingdom were commanded to be at the inauguration of Nebs gold image ,including the three Hebrews who were put to the test .....and yet where does the bible say Daniel was??? considering he was Nebs right hand man now? Did he stay away or did he just bow down with everyone else except the three Hebrews - where's the consistency here? I believe this is all related to the theme of your topic. The account is about as consistant as the GB has been.!
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Global Warming lie -don't be brainwashed 2008 Australia's Coldest winter???
by Witness 007 inthat's right folks the world is in for global warming...you'll be dog paddling to work in ten years however.....remember the graph in "that" documentary showing temps.
well not this year temps.
are going down with melbourne australia {and many other countries} recording the "coldest winter in ten years.".
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Well I think we had our equally second coldest August on record in Adelaide but I don't think any of us have lived long enough to confidently observe changes over time and then be able to say "oh yes this period or that period has suffered abnormality because of tearing trees down and burning fossil fuels" .The Northern hem. is melting and yet there are other parts of the planet growing in ice ,who's qualified enough to say for sure whats going on ,we're only living in a single grain of time and yet if you shit in your nest on one side for too long it's gonna stink and maybe topple off the branch.
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Are these things true?
by Number1Anarchist inthis is a letter off the internet.
are the things he says about spirtualism true where they wanted to bury brother rutherford at sunrise?
(this letter was written in june 1994 to fellow jws.
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wozadummy
After reading the Consolation it disgusts me how biased the article was on Rutherfords burial place and calling the local authorities "enemies" .Well where was Jah's spirit? They always rave about how the spirit did this or that yet their dear president could not find a hole in the ground at Bethsarim to be buried in! But is he buried there still? on the sly ?
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What Is Your Present Status In The Organization?
by minimus inare you disfellowshipped?
disassociated?
a fader?
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wozadummy
After about 12 years of trying to change the stance of the Society concerning molestation of my wife by her elder father I gathered a collective of memories of wrong things that I had also seen go on in the Society ,came on this site and Silent Lambs ,gathered info on such things as the UN scandal and also going thru a Judicial committee against an elder who seriously wrong me in front of 3 JW's who I called as witnesses against him ,and then seeing the local elders throw it out and even the CO giving the accused permission not to attend the JC ,and then having Sydney Bethel toss the case and us away.......phew....I tried to present all this finally to my local elders who gutlessly backed away from us ,I just stopped going and thankfully my wife soon stopped attending too and DA'd ,My status is unknown but the brothers walk past our home now after we exposed the society to some sisters who called by. My wife does'nt believe in god now ,after all when you're a small child being raped for years by your elder father ,and you call out "Jehovah please help me !" ...and nothing happens...what do you do after serving for a further twenty years as an adult and then the Society kicks you in the guts. I REALLY HOPE SOME BETHELITES OR ANYBODY STILL IN READS THIS!!!!!
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JWD The Mother of All Apostate Sites
by stillajwexelder induring my search of links etc to other jw discussion sites both pro and anti i keep seeing people say that jwd is the mother of all apostate sites
just thought you would all like to know that
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wozadummy
I agree and it really has some top discussions debating JW beliefs that has proved to me very useful in breaking the chains finally of the societies hold on me giving misleading and biased info. Before I came here ,and I'm sure others feel the same, that all those doubts that developed were confirmed here in a logical way. When leaving mentally it was hard to know whether it was the right thing to do ,but upon reading others experiences and the truth about the truth it makes it easier to move on - certainly a little true knowledge empowers a person. Thanks to all here who have had the courage to work hard at telling others the facts .