Lady Lee said " It seems to me that Russell's attitude regarding Maria was the same. As long as she refuses to think, believe and behave in the manner I want then she is the problem and I can treat her anyway I want including lie about out problems. It is the same attitude that he had towards non-believers. Sell to them if we can and if they agree with us that's great. If not then they are worldly and not worthy of our time "......I think this a common male problem with JW's especially elders ,when challenged on anything they immediately turn from humble to ranenous unreasoning dogs.
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In memory of Charles Taze Russell who died 92 years ago.
by AndersonsInfo inpastor charles taze russells wife, maria, divorced him in 1906. the writings of maria russell e-document contains an eleven-page enlightening introduction that outlines her fall from her husbands affection because he said she was endeavoring to take over the editorship of his religious journal, zions watch tower.
is that true?
also discussed is the question of mrs. russells acumen as a writer which her husband and followers called into question.
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I seem to have been on this board for ages and still have'nt got 1000 posts - give me some meat to chew ,am I really that poor at contributing?
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Listen up people!
by wozadummy inhas there been any members of the gb that were'nt white american, white german or white australian??
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Has there been any members of the GB that were'nt white American, white German or white Australian???
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JWD is getting very boring...........
by still_in74 inis there nothing interesting to post anymore?
it seems like so much less effort is going into posts now.. maybe that is good, i wont spend so much time logged in.
having said that i do miss those captivating threads that glued me to the screen.
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I posted how hot Sarah Palin is and they yanked it I think ,I thought it was a good topic but someone does'nt think so.
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What kind of raw honey do you like?
by asilentone inthere are so many raw honey products on the internet, i cannot decide which one i want to buy.
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38 - 26- 36 as raw as it cums oops! comes
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How to Bankrupt the WTS
by Farkel inhow to bankrupt the watchtower corporation.
when i was a pioneer, we were expected to "place" 100 magazines a month.
i knew i could only pawn off on people about 30 or 40 copies a month.
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If I was still in I'd get huge orders of books and mags and put them in the recycle bin for collection - bonus for the enviroment and my hours /placement ratio would earn me an eldership I reckon.
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Is the Bible the word of God?
by Number1Anarchist inthis is a question that has racked my brain.
how do we know it is from god?
we have heard this since we were born that the bible was the word of god!
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Jeez I don;t know SLAPPY ,I'm a father and I never killed or wanted to kill my children even though they were little shits at times .......and he wants to kill billions in one swoop even after watching young and old die for thousands of years.
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MY PROJECT IS (FINALLY) FINISHED!
by Mary infor those of you who are interested, the project i've been working on for the last few months is finally finished.
i originally did a thread about it back in april: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/156497/1.ashx.
it seems that alot of us still have family members in the religion and have not infrequent arguments with them about some of the beliefs and practices.
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Thank you MARY I will be getting stuck into it this weekend.
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I hope this news is true!
by wozadummy ini've mentioned before here that in my old congo that there is a pedophile who has been there for some years.
just to re-cap - he was an elder in a congo more south from my old congo for some years and stopped being an elder there for unknown reasons to us when he and his wife moved to our congo when we attended.. in time it came out ,from an elderly pioneer who was close to my wife, that he had been df'd before for adultery or some such.. now in our congregation he got df'd again and because the pioneer sister used to get a lift to meetings from them ,she was told by the pedo's wife that he had been accused of molesting his girls when they were kids.
of course the stupid woman was actually defending her husband to the pioneer - this is her daughters this animal molested!!.
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I know this story is pretty distressing to some .I think of those of us who have stopped going to meetings ,and yet still have loved ones attending with their children and even though relationships are sometimes strained from us leaving we still love those family and freinds still going ,and especially the little ones. And when we think of them being exposed to these filthy pedophiles WITH THE FULL KNOWLEDGE of the elders and the Governing body in the congregation ....well I feel sick at the thought . And this is a classic case of ongoing pedophilia under the wings of the local elders. There is an even darker side to the old time elders in this area that I have not discussed here yet - it is an eye witness account of an ex-JW Pioneer woman I know who years ago witnessed a "brother "digitally molest his little daughter.She reported it the elders at that time ,and they said they would deal with it congregationally and indicated to her they would hand this to the police . In recent times she went to the police and asked them to go to their archives to look into it ....WELL THEY DID NOTHING because the Detective that I know looked into it and found that they never reported him and there was never any congo action taken. At the time as a Pioneer she trusted them to deal with him but it seems he may have only been encouraged to move on. ONE OF THESE ELDERS IS THE PRESIDING OVERSEER OF THE CONGO OF MY FIRST STORY. This elder admitted to me a couple of years ago he was molested as a child !!!! What do you think, his daughter left the JW's when she was about 18 many years ago and never came back and he refused to go to her wedding citing she was DF'd - I've always had a sick feeling in my stomach about him ,his wife is an insufferable neurotic ...maybe put two and two together . there's a lot of sick stuff south of Adelaide. I've caught this same elder out lying in a committee case years ago and told him so .When my wife put in a DA letter to him 3 years ago (he was also on the committee case of her father 13 years ago) he told her she had let him down after all he had done for her !!!! This bloke also worked with my wifes molestor father....go figure. There's a definite illness here amongst all the old boys ,one even got moved down south years ago because of beastiality. I feel sick.
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I hope this news is true!
by wozadummy ini've mentioned before here that in my old congo that there is a pedophile who has been there for some years.
just to re-cap - he was an elder in a congo more south from my old congo for some years and stopped being an elder there for unknown reasons to us when he and his wife moved to our congo when we attended.. in time it came out ,from an elderly pioneer who was close to my wife, that he had been df'd before for adultery or some such.. now in our congregation he got df'd again and because the pioneer sister used to get a lift to meetings from them ,she was told by the pedo's wife that he had been accused of molesting his girls when they were kids.
of course the stupid woman was actually defending her husband to the pioneer - this is her daughters this animal molested!!.
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I've mentioned before here that in my old congo that there is a pedophile who has been there for some years. Just to re-cap - he was an elder in a congo more south from my old congo for some years and stopped being an elder there for unknown reasons to us when he and his wife moved to our congo when we attended.
In time it came out ,from an elderly pioneer who was close to my wife, that he had been DF'd before for adultery or some such.
Now in our congregation he got DF'd again and because the pioneer sister used to get a lift to meetings from them ,she was told by the pedo's wife that he had been accused of molesting his girls when they were kids. Of course the stupid woman was actually defending her husband to the pioneer - this is her daughters this animal molested!!
Well the pioneer sister was upset and told us about it because of my wifes abuse by her father and also her daughters were molested years ago by a brother when she lived elswhere, we all had something in common talking about this before we left the org.
Since we left we have kept in touch with the Pioneer sister for she cares alot about my wife but she certainly suffers from cognizant dissonance for she says "oo Jehovah will fix things " etc ,you know how they go. Well I posted here how two sisters came witnessing to our home and we talked to them about this pedophile in their congo ,and we expressed our concern for the safety of their children and they were thankful ,but the elders got to them and now they all walk on the other side of the road now.
I've confronted the elders in the past about this man and they admitted he was a molester and they were keeping an eye on him, and it was then that I said they could'nt do this for we witnessed him grabbing and holding tight a child in the Kingdom hall when we attended ,and even the childs grad mother witnessed this and did nothing.This challenge angered the elders and we stopped attending and explained we could not attend any more for they let molesters attend and could'nt watch them properly .He is always on field service and he does'nt always work with an elder like the society says they do. I've pointed this out to them and any witness who would listen.
Well time has gone by and a young mother we know who stopped attending years ago( but her mother keeps pestering her to go back ) ,well her mother recently tried to organise the pedophile to study with her children!!! can you believe this .I told her some weeks ago to avoid this at all costsand she did.
Well this young mother that I've seen grown up from a young child has just informed us that the pedo has been to court and is now being sentenced to jail in a couple of weeks .
From what she found out he has molested other children . The local elders have been protecting this filthy person and denigrating us to the local brothers for challenging them on the issue of him being a pedophile . I just want to confront them all now again .
these are the facts we know at the moment but we are next week going to get the court records to substantiate all this and I will post back on this .
This man was best freinds with my wifes father - birds of a feather flock together don't they.