Blondie, thanks for posting Little Toe's talk. I read the whole thing. It was awesome. They're so blasphemous, inserting themselves into Jesus' role, when they're just a manmade organization like Little Toe pointed out.
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I Heard A Longtime Elder, Recently Deleted, Announced To Congregation That He Was Publicly Disassociating Himself!
by minimus ini heard that it happened a couple of days ago.
he's in his 60's, was a prominent bethelite from a long line of bible student/jw family.. another one bites the dust..
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The most watchtarded WT study yet....?!?!?
by DATA-DOG inif you went to the meeting yesterday, did you notice how utterly watchtarded it was??
it seemed to me that everyone in my kh has accepted the fact that they will die.
that's all they kept saying, even the wt conducting eldumb said, " we have to teach the next generation because we won't be here forever.." wth?!???
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I remember the 1975 fanfare well. I graduated from high school in 1977. Several of my peers were taken out of school by their parents. To this day, I'm surprised my father didn't do that to me. I got to graduate, have had a career, and am about to retire from my career. When I attempt to talk about retiring to my mother, she does not want to discuss it. Some thing's rotten in Denmark and she can't deal with it, as an elderly woman. She wasn't supposed to get old, and I wasn't supposed to reach retirement age in "this old system of things."
She'll be back at the meeting Sunday to lap up more BS. I love her anyway, but I just don't get it.
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What Watchtower Belief/View Never Sat Right With You?
by minimus inbut their views on blood are just plain weird!
meat has blood in it even if it's bled.
still eating meat means consuming blood.
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Blood. My grandmother died when I was 5 years old for refusing a blood transfusion, so I only have a couple of memories of her. Now they've changed the blood policy, so why did my gran have to die? Worse still, my family doesn't even catch the discrepancy. Wouldn't you think it'd sink in? She died for no damn reason! Yet they still smile and go to meetings, Ass-emblies etc. Sad. I could've had my grandma and got to know her.
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Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses Wisconsin and Midwest
by Watchtower-Free inso who's from wisconsin and the midwest usa.
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Virgochik
Born in Gary, Indiana. Went to Chesterton & Michigan City, briefly to Lake Station before I moved out west & faded from view.
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Super Bowl XLVIII SEATTLE OR DENVER
by ldrnomo ini have to go with seattle.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozsrq3hujme.
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Since I live in Colorado south of Denver, I'm rooting for the Broncos!
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Did your congregation have a "Pioneer Appreciation Day"?
by Coffee House Girl inmy mom (who is now a regular pioneer) has been laid up after having major surgery, and i assert my "biblical" rights as a daughter to do what i can to take care of her, so i have been trying to go to her house on my day off to vaccum and run errands for her since she is not supposed to drive.. she called me last saturday to tell me that i couldn't come by because she was driving to her pioneer appreciation day get-together, wtf .
i'm just curious if this only happens in my area (michigan, us)????.
chg. .
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My elderly widowed mother texted me on Christmas day that she was going to a dinner for the pioneers. She's darn near eighty, on a very small income and driving an ancient car, but they invited her to a special dinner and paid attention to her, so she's hooked into pioneering. I voiced those concerns, as well as asking if it was wise for her to be out in bitter cold and ice, since she's had pneumonia before, but she airily assured me the brothers are looking out for her. I guess doing this on December 25 was their way of proving they had nothing to do with celebrating Christmas and had genuinely important business to conduct. Funny, they profess to be a Christian religion.
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shock horror! WITNESSING ATTIRE NOW CONDONES OPEN-NECK SHIRTS FOR MALES!
by steve2 ingo to jw.org right now friends and you will see a young male jw witnessing in a rural setting with publication in hand and - take careful note - wearing a crisply-white open-neck shirt.
bring out the carnival, light the lights: the organ ization is kicking itself into an ongoing casualization of its rank and file.. in the 1960s through 1980s i know brothers who dared to attire themselves sans ties who were reprimanded or worse.
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I asked my mom why they still insist on sisters wearing dresses and skirts, because that is outdated now. Many people find the dresses and suits intimidating and don't answer their door. She was adamant:"We believe in looking our best when we're out in service."
I said, well I look my best in a nice slacks suit and heels, so why would I have to wear a dress then? Well, maybe finally, they're figuring out that dressing a little less starchy, formal and outright silly and inappropriate might get more doors to open.
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Comittee, I give you credit for doubtless trying to make your congregation a better place while caught between strong personalities and perhaps doubts that it's even worthwhile. Can you share more about your situation?
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I'm finding their stories very powerful evidence that nothing has changed since I grew up an elder's daughter. There was so much backstabbing, politics and jostling for power. We had about a twenty minute ride home from the hall and I heard all the dirt my father related to my mother as he drove. Every few years he'd change congregations because he couldn't work with the BOE. There were always divisions, with competing elders drawing their own cliques. At one point I became seriously ill from the stress placed on an elder's child to be an example, and from all the backstabbing and changing halls.
My mother's an elderly widow now. She sincerely believes it's the truth and tries to encourage me to get involved again, even though my health suffered badly when I was growing up. The elders are just responding to an invitation to post; I don't see any of them acting like they're superior over the rest of us. Many have struggled with posting thir stories and it hasn't been an easy decision for them. It seems like they decided go ahead because the information they can share will be helpful to others. It means so much to me, knowing that I wasn't imagining the unloving, competitive drive of those men of my childhood years, and knowing that things haven't changed firms my belief that I don't want to get entangled again with this religion. By their fruits we will know them, and they are not Jesus' disciples.
My heart felt thanks to current and former elders and MS. I feel your pain thru what my father went through with the org, especially some nasty CO's and you can feel very alone if you're an outcast from the good old boys.