Virgochik

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  Song: The Life Of A Pioneer

  by pale.emperor in

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  it struck me today how the lyrics to kingdom song 81 "the life of a pioneer" sound almost like a slave song from a plantation or something.

  what's also sad is, if you read, you'll notice that they sound not only like slaves, but slaves that are admittedly tired and worn out yet grateful to serve their governing body overseers master to prove their devotion to him.. very sad indeed..

  at the start of the day, with the sun yet to rise,.

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  Virgochik

  What a sorry excuse for worship music!
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  Flashback: Samuel Herd/Ashland Avenue Chicago

  by Phaedra in

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  must have been mid to late 1970s.. it was when they still published the speakers' names on the light-blue circuit assembly programs.. i was a child sitting in the audience at ashland avenue's circuit assembly venue.

  i loved that place with it's own basement cafeteria and baptism pool with a big jesus getting baptized mural behind it.. samuel herd was giving the talk.

  my child self could only remember my father pointing him out on the program.

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  Virgochik

  We traveled to Ashland Ave from northwest Indiana when I was a teenager. Scary, scary neighborhood! I remember going to Janesville after that. Now that was a long drive.
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  Demon dog

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  look at the picture for yesterday's watchtower study.

  see the good jw folks sitting around the campfire..... zoooom in on that campfire.

  have a good look..

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  The woman in the green top-stretch the pic. There's a face in her left knee. If you stretch the pic, there are a few odd things. Just strange and not necessary. Why do this?
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  After leaving the JWs - Has anyone stayed with Christianity?

  by rulehayl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i recently made the decision to stop studying with my study conductor, due to a situation i found myself in that led to a high possibility of my unbaptized publisher "rights" being taken away from me.

  i have since told my study conductor i have joined a new church (to which she dropped me like a hot rock, of course).... last time i posted on here, i was progressing nicely towards baptism, and was well into it.anyhoo, i like my new church, very hillsong-esqe.

  so just wondering if anyone else has stayed the course of christianity after leaving the jws, and if so - where did you go?

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  Virgochik

  I believe in God. I don't believe God is present in any Kingdom Hall. For thirty years, I didn't give it much thought. Then I realized you don't have to throw the baby out with the bath water. I attend a friendly, uplifting non-denominational church now and really enjoy it. I truly feel God's presence and love the worship music. It helps me be a better person.

  I was always told church people couldn't find scriptures and don't own a Bible. That is so not true! Just another lie from the Org to seem superior.
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  Self indulgent attention whore thread....

  by _Morpheus in

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  today is my birthday :) in happy to be able to say that guilt free!

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  Virgochik

  I love being able to say happy birthday, so happy birthday and many more, Morpheus and Never a JW!
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  What is this "religion"?

  by Kom 197 in

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  2. friends

  for a long time, i was convinced jehovah witnesses were just people preaching the word of god in a different way than other christians.

  i was shown the real truth over the past few months.

  i've been friends with this guy for over 5 years.

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  You would have to become a baptized JW too, in order to have a future with him. Since you already noticed the false teachings, you would have to pretend to agree with things that go against your grain. Could you fake it for a lifetime, and what about your children? No Christmas, no birthdays, no education.
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  Wifes parents are in a bad way.

  by blownaway in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my wife's parents are in a bad way.

  she went to visit and her mother has alzheimer and father has a hart condition.

  they are jws and he quit his job at gm many years ago for 1975. he moved to where the need was great to wait for the end.

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  Virgochik

  It really makes you angry. My parents were given money to send me to college. Instead they spent it on themselves. When my grandfather passed, they inherited a sizeable nest egg. Did they remodel their run down house? No. They retired early and pioneered. The house had a leaky foundation and terrible mold in the basement, plus a severe rodent infestation.

  Dad died, Mom had to move out of the condemned house. She's now in a tiny rented apartment, subsidized by the state, free utilities, and complaining about it. Why did this happen? Because why fix up the house or pay for life insurance, when the end is so near?

  Now apparently I'm lacking in natural affection, because I'm retired and not feeling all that sorry for her. I worked for thirty seven years and earned my retirement. We're on a budget because hubby is retiring too. While I worked, she rode around door knocking, la la la. No financial planning on my parents part at all. I blame their naivety and I blame the scammers at Watchtower who encouraged this.

  Mom is still urging me to return to the meetings.
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  Personal opinions spouted from the platform?

  by purrpurr in

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  2. experiences

  have you ever heard some brothers own ideas and opinions spouted from the platform?

  perhaps off brand or crazy ones?

  some that i've heard is:.

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  Virgochik

  I heard from the platform that we should not be texting. Instead of texting, we should be picking up the phone and talking to the person! Seriously? The whole point of texting is because it's a convenient way to send a short message when you are busy or can't make a phone call.

  The elder was old and fighting a losing battle. They meddle in everything.
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  Are you affected by Seasonal Affective Disorder?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i intimate in the words below, i like autumn and winter, but there's a downward spiral in my emotions.

  i'm in control, yet, .

  rain, at long last, has touched both our land and my soul.

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  Virgochik

  I'm from northwest Indiana, near Chicago. My SAD was severe, so I moved to sunny Colorado. It really made a difference. No more fall and winter depression.
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  Was It Really Mental Illness or Was It The Demons?

  by minimus in

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  we supposedly had more than a few “demonized” people in our congregation.

  they would hear voices or feel internal punishment within their souls.

  the answer was always—-these people were affected by the demons and they needed counseling!.

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  Virgochik

  My parents studied with a couple in the mid seventies. The man, I believe now, was probably schizophrenic. He was hearing voices. Of course he was counseled to get rid of anything he owned that was drawing demons. The poor man needed concern and psychiatric treatment not this nonsense which upset him worse.

  I recall they stopped studying shortly after.