Posts by Shador

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"All religious belief distills down to faith in utterly unprovable stories."

by Franklin Massey in

jw
friends

i read this today on the board and want to ask, is the statement true?.

all religious belief distills down to faith in utterly unprovable stories.

i feel this way sometimes.

Shador

Would not that be the very definition of "faith"? Keep in mind that these "stories" can't be DISPROVEN either.

As I mentioned in another topic, I am pagan, and personally believe the "gods" may be highly evolved aliens. Can't be proven, can't be disproven.

As for any holy books or religious works (even the Edda of my own beliefs), they must be taken with a grain (or more) of salt. Ultimately they were all written by men and subject to error and personal bias.

I suggest you read "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. Of course, he is what you might call an "evangelical athiest", so keep that salt handy. Pay particular attention to "the invisible teapot" illustration, which kind of highlights the can't be proven/disproven thing.

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Pay Attention book.

by Shador in

just wondering if anyone has a pdf of the most recent "elder's manual" i have a pdf of the '91 version, but i'm sure there's been plenty of new lighttm since then..

Shador

Just wondering if anyone has a PDF of the most recent "Elder's Manual" I have a PDF of the '91 version, but I'm sure there's been plenty of New Light™ since then.

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geez that romans; 13 what a sham

by heathen in

i've noticed allot of attention given to that scripture of late , i've also noticed the wtbts flip flops in dogma , to me it's an obvious contradiction in scripture and was tampered with or an out right forgery .

praising the romans for using the sword for good is completely outrageous .

from what i see in the bible is gods hatred of world rulers and not empowering them .

Shador

Well of course, the official Witness dogma, as far as I know, is that the governments are ultimately Satan's but god permits them so as to keep order in society (since, of course, it would be hard to preach with total anarchy).

What The Bible™ says varies depending on who you talk to.

Personally, I think (the) God(s) have nothing to do with with human government whatsoever. Humans are quite capable of screwing things up on their own without supernatural (or alien) intervention, and I'm sure (the) God(s) have other, more important, things to do with their time.

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Field Service time wasters

by xelder in

last saturday morning, i ran to the hardware store.

a former co (retired in a circuit provided house) was in the hardware store.

i stopped at starbucks....more jw's.

Shador

Yep. The "breaks" can sometimes make most of the morning. The Special Pioneer™ and several others in our hall often do a good bit of their grocery shopping when we "break" at one of the grocery stores in town. I'm often with people who have "calls" that can last upwards of an hour (mostly shooting the shit, with a little study thrown in). Meantime, those left in the car pull out the cell phones and start playing bubble breaker or some such. I'm getting quite good at Bejeweled.

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JW Blasts Three Guys With Stun Gun Sunday At Jets-Cowboys Game

by Room 215 in

news 88 new york reported this morning somebody named larry mckelvey, did not stand for national anthem; 3 guys tried to rough him up and he blasted them with stun gun at sunday's jets-cowboys game.

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Shador

LOL. What happened to "turn the other cheek"?

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Child abuse - the emotional kind

by Mickey mouse in

i had to complete some mandatory training today for my job on child protection.

one of the types of abuse described was "making a child feel responsible for the abuser's happiness/unhappiness.. then i thought of this:.

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Shador

With the economy in shit, not all of us can afford that option, Bella. Believe me, I'm 30, and I wish I could afford my own place.

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So, about the new Smurf movie...

by fallen_princess in

jw
friends

for those on who are still in.. what is the official position of the wathchtower with regards to this movie?

the reason i ask is that i went out with some jw family to the movies recently and just for kicks i suggested we go watch the smurfs just to see how they would react.

everyone was very resoundingly against going to watch it.

Shador

I believe the WTB$ position would be: Smurfs have magic. Magic bad.

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Songs that touch ...

by talesin in

can be mushy ... .

or can be craaazyyy ... .

okay, i'll start :).

Shador

I'm pagan, but I still like this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsCp5LG_zNE

These always make me cry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFK3ayRQ1s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXV3Kt98ISk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu_rItLPTXc

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The impact of Governing Body policy on higher education: read this!

by Terry in

excerpt:.

does your religion affect your income?by mari cockerell, ktxs newsabilene, texas -- the pew forum on religion and public life recently put out the results of a survey on wealth and religion in the united states.. you may be surprised to learn which religious groups in this country have the most and the least wealthy members.an infographic produced by the folks at www.good.is breaks down information gathered by the pew forum on religion and wealth.

it maps out distribution of income for the 14 major religious groups in this country, charting those whose income is less than $30,000 a year all the way up to $100,000+.. what they found is interesting.the religions whose members earn the most money are jews and hindus.

Shador

Likely a combination of both factors at play here.

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Child abuse - the emotional kind

by Mickey mouse in

i had to complete some mandatory training today for my job on child protection.

one of the types of abuse described was "making a child feel responsible for the abuser's happiness/unhappiness.. then i thought of this:.

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Shador

Paragraph 14 is such bullshit. Makes my blood boil.

"The parents, on the other hand, had no say in the matter". The hell they didn't. They have the choice to follow the WTB$ man-made rules or to do the right thing by loving and supporting their child.