Techdotcom - I'm curious about your age group. Not wanting to pry too far or presesnt info that could identify you, would you mind sharing the general age group of you and your wife. (ie: under 25, 30-something, 40's, 50's, over 60).
-Aude.
has anyone else, after leaving the restrictive rules of the jw world, tried having an open marriage, joining the 'lifestyle' of the swinger comunity?
we've been doing that for about 4-5 months now and it's been an interesting experience, in fact it's been a major distraction from the hell of rebuilding our lives outside the religion and our base of friends.
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Techdotcom - I'm curious about your age group. Not wanting to pry too far or presesnt info that could identify you, would you mind sharing the general age group of you and your wife. (ie: under 25, 30-something, 40's, 50's, over 60).
-Aude.
hey there,.
is there any conflict with jws and aa or other 12 step recovery programs?.
was there in the past, if there isn't conflict today?.
My point of reference is circa 1980 - so it could be *very* out-of-date, per WTS standards.
At the time, someone was studying and he was also a recovering alcoholic so attending many AA meetings each week. He had to discontinue his studies, in part, because his study conductor wanted him to quit AA as it was viewed, to the conductor, as a religion.
-Aude.
so my mother calls me on thanksgiving thursday and tells me about a fellow in her kh that i knew quite well.
he grew a beard years ago and stopped field recruiting, but kept going to the kh several times a month as his wife was still active.
the elders never really tried to show concern for his depression, but always bugged him about the beard.
That's just so sad. My heart aches for her.
A JW family friend of ours died about 7 years ago. She active/inactive for years. Diagnosed with bi-polar disorder (manic depression at the time) and also seemed to have developed some form of social anxiety and agorphobia (fear of going outside).
While she was still alive, her son was talking about her to me one day. So happy that they had finally gotten off all her meds. She was back to meetings, out in service, etc.
About a year later, I got a call that she was dead. NO ONE would give me any details.
I was unable to attend the funeral (too far and too expensive for airfare) but there were MANY in attendance at dinner for her. Photos were taken and several sent to me.
My gut tells me that she killed herself. Her 'active' transformation was just too quick to have been genuine healing. I believe that the details of her death were kept hidden so as not to stumble others and yet allow the family to have some comfort in jw-style closure.
I could be wrong. Could just be that people were not giving me info because *I* was inactive at the time (although still an apologist).
Sorry to digress. This story just reminded me of my friend.
My heart still aches for your old friend, OTWO.
-Aude.
i was thinking this could be a totaly self indulgent no holes barred wish list.. so tell us, or just " santa" what do you really want for christmas?.
A job.
i don't want to get graphic with this and get this thread locked, so please don't go overboard with answers.. i was having a discussion with someone about the jw experience, and was wondering if, since "jehovah" is an important part of the religion, during the moments of intense passion in a relationship, would you yell out, "oh, jehovah!
oh, jehovah!".
seriously, would a witness do that?.
Nope.
But I would be thinking that Jehovah and Angels and Demons were watching.
I may have a few exhibitionistic tendencies, but thinking they were watching was *not* a turn on.
Man! Those were crazy, mind-f*cking times.
-Aude.
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Good thing the title itself was interesting enough to make me want to work harder to see it~!!
Now will go back and read the article.
Thanks!
-Aude.
here is what it is like to those on the inside of the door:.
the children got up about an hour earlier than normal.
obviously, they are anxious to start opening up the presents under the tree (and most children are not going to want to sleep in on christmas morning).
Hated field service on any holiday, especially Christmas. When I got older, I left town and went skiing with friends instead.
We had this idiot Service Overseer who asked for groups to go to the cemetary on Memorial Day. I said "No way."
YIKES!! I never heard of this one before. I do believe this may be a good definition of 'Brazen'. No?
-Aude.
OMG~!!!
Seriously... It was just yesterday that I was thinking of you. And Nina and the kids.
And viola - Here you are!
Been a tough couple of years for me but I'm still standing.
-Aude.
misanthropic and kudra say hello from sunny (in the 80s f/27 c this week!
) tucson, az to all yous beautiful folks here!.
we had a delicious breakfast at bentley's on speedway/campbell- if you are in tucson go there for a cheap and awesome meal at a quirky little cafe.. we had a great time- it was so good to get together :).
Wish I could have joined you!
-Aude.
i will volunteer to coordinate this.. if you would like a card sent to you or send a card, pm me your mailing address and a name the post office will deliver to.. what do you think the cut off date should be for sending the exchange lists out to everyone?.
do you want it pm'd or e-mailed (if emailed send your email address with your snail mail.. i know that cards going overseas can take longer.. .
blondie.
Got a handful of cards today. They are on my mantle.
Thanks for the lovelies! It's a snowman festival~!!
-Aude.