i was wondering if some of you can give me some advice in how to get over the fact that i feel so inadequate when trying to make new friends!!
since i left the borg i have only made about 2-3 close friends... the wts ruined my social skills and i am so depressed because i am afraid of the real world... i know i am ready to move on... but i dont know how.. i feel like i dont belong in there but i dont belong out here either... i am in social limbo.. and it sucks to have no friends.. .
when i was in i hated the weekends because i was basically forced to go to service, now i hate the weekends because if the few friends i have are busy w their families or partners i am stuck all by myself... :( please give me some pointers i feel super lonely!
Use your dog as an ice breaker. People who have pets - especially dogs - love to talk about them. Take your dog hiking and on walks. Stop to talk to people who are outside. Take your dog to a dog park. Take your dog to the local coffee shop and sit outside for a while. Talk to people who stop to pet your dog.
It's just little social banter, but could lead to more. As you talk to people, start getting more involved in your community.
It's a start.
-Aude.
i just put together a site that tries to logically show the witnesses are not the true religion.
just wondering how to get the information out to people that most need it.
also any ideas on how to get the site found by search engines.
Happy 6th Anniversary, jwfacts.com~!
-Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)
the passing of a big man and a fine musician...... .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0md__rpshg&feature=related.
I was sad to learn this.
He and the band sure brought a lot of music and fun into my life.
Mine, too.
Seen him perform many times. He will be greatly missed.
-Aude.
without specifics being mentioned as to what it is......(to avoid tipping off certain lurkers).. how many people know about the upcoming summer long campaign?
please use this thread to confirm receipt of your campaign invitation.
take care.
Can someone please send me a pm with details?
Thanks!
-Aude.
if you just want the juicy details where i leave, i'll make disclaimer where it begins, if you just want to know what happened with the elders and organization after i realized it wasn't true, i'll mark that seperately.
we didn't do jack shit in service, or in the congregation.
maybe this was how jehovah came about?
I also missed this the first time (probably because I'm not paying much attention to anything X-JW lately).
Marking for complete read later. The bit I read was good and I know it's captivating.
Welcome to JWN. Looks like you've found yourself a vacation 'roosting nest'.
-Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)
ole was is still on the mend but feelin' better,.
home pc is down, hope to be back on soon, take care.
postin' from library.
I have not been here much at all so don't know everyone's current situations/status's/stories and did not know that you were not well.
However, I *am* glad to know that you are getting better.
Be well.
-Aude.
been married for almost two decades now, and still luvs the woman!!
anyways, her and her family had a trip planned to a theme park this weekend, out of state.
i have known about it for a while and used work as an excuse not to go.
sinis wrote: I am taking some time off after she gets back and we will do some fun things around town or short day trips out of town. Will have some flowers and diner ready when she returns, probably will take her out.
Let her tell you all about the fun she had. Or if that's too boring/frustrating for you, ask what were her top two favorite things that happened?
I like that you are planning on a little something for when she gets back for just the two of you. You'll be refreshed from doing what you want and she will have had her own fun.
Sounds like a good plan to me!
-Aude.
my wife stood before me with some items in front of her.
without a word, she emptied a large jar of mayonnaise and proceeded to fill the empty jar with rocks right to the top, rocks about 2" diameter, then asked me if the jar was full.
i agreed that it was.. she then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them in to the jar.
This was presented at one of the circuit assemblies I attended (15-17 years ago). I thought it was a good illustration and actually motivated me to stay in for a while a longer.
Imagine my surprise when 10 or 12 years later, after leaving the org and changing to a better career, I was participating in a corporate training program, when the EXACT same demonstration was used to illustrate how time management works:
One demonstration that Covey likes to make is pouring sand into a jar. Then he holds up a few larger rocks and shows that there is no more room in the jar for the big rocks. First, you put the bigger, more important, rocks in the jar. Only then do you add whatever sand will fill in the space.
Similarly, most people live their lives not doing what is really most important to them, but rather they do whatever issue is pressing them the most at present. Often, upon reflection we see that the issues that are so strongly consuming our time do not warrent the large mental energy and time we devote to them. They are like the sand preventing us from focusing upon what is important to us.
The two above quotes were taken from:
http://www.bainvestor.com/SevenHabits.html
My corporate trainer gave credit to Steven Covey for the training concept. You already know that the Watchtower gave no credit to anyone for the illustration that they plagerized.
-Aude.
this is very difficult to write (forgive me for any spelling mistake, i am not a native english speaker).. i cannot tell my complete story on this board - i eventually will, once i have broken the last "link in the chain" that has kept me captive to the borg.
i can't tell my story, because.....basically i will be known.....as a more or less "famous" jw..... i have been lurking this site for many years, wrote here under another name - this eventually was found out and i had to do "damage containment".
i had to "go back" and tow the party line....all my family (extended and close) are witnesses, all my "friends" and even work & business relationships are jw.
You've been offered such good advice here already. However there are a few things that stand out in my mind:
1. Keep coming back here. This place can be a soul-saver for you. A wealth of experience and information. You are not the first to have to go through this difficult situaiton and, sadly, you won't be the last.
2. On page 1 you wrote:
if Jehovah wants to kill me to do it RIGHT AWAY, to JUST PULL THE TRIGGER...he would do me a greater favor than menacing me for years with Armaggedon.
I would re-think how you talk to your wife about spiritual things. Something like what is quoted above is almost psychotic and difficult for most people to address. Really, how do you think she *should* respond to something like that. I do not remember what your current belief system is, but I will guess that you do not really think a god named Jehovah is out to get you personally and plans to murder you himself. Nor do I think you really believe that Armageddon is looming with you as its primary target. So why taunt her with talk like this??
Since she seems to be so deeply *in* one of these stances may be better: (a) agree to not talk about any spiritual/religious things; (b) have a weekly family study that only uses the bible - and maybe compare different versions/translations; (c) if she brings up your relationship with Jehovah, just politely let her know that you are confident and at peace with your relationship and standing before Jehovah. Exude that peace and smile when you say it. Let the confidence and peacefulness ooze out you.
3. ABSOLUTELY find non-JW things to do with your daughter, with your wife, and by yourself.
4. Don't abandon your daughter. Forget about the religious stuff. You are her dad. Period. Fight for access to her and make the time you spend together count. Do fun things. Do adventurous things. But don't leave her. Ever. It does permanent damage to a girl's self-esteem. Keep calm and be determined to not let ANYONE separate you from your child.
5. If you want to see if there are witnesses near you, check the old postings on the home page for 'Apostafests'. You might find something there. Alternatively, you can send a private message to someone you trust here and ask them to create a new post there to suggest a 'get-together' in your area. When I travel, I often post to see who might be available to meet - even if just for coffee.
Nice to have you back - whoever you were...~!
-Aude.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1390052/michael-jacksons-children-smartest-clothes-weekly-worship-grandmother.html?ito=feeds-newsxml.
i feel sorry for them.
i hope the kids don't get pulled into the intimidation of jws..
av8 wrote: For those you attende with her,or know a bit about her,is she really all in ?
I have been out for a over 15 years and have not seen her in about that long. When I was in, she was definitely all in. (Husband is an elder) We have mutual friends that I see from time to time and they say she is still a 'faithful witness of Jehovah' (tm).
I tend to believe it's true.
-Aude.
