Posts by AudeSapere

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Should I allow my mom to see the grandchildren?

by confusedandalone in

so i am not officially da/do yet and my family has shunned me hard.

today crying my mother calls me to beg to see my children... should i let her?

i feel that if you can speak abusive of your own son and wife and shun the.

AudeSapere

It has *got* to be embarrassing to try to dance around explain to non-jw's how a grandparent could possibly not be involved in their grandchildren's lives - especially when they preach to others about how loving they and their religion is.

By having just a little interaction with the kids, she gets to retell the same story of the 30 minutes she spend with them over and over again for 6-12 months. That way she can save face among her friends and potential converts. She can also tell her JW friends how big a test of faith she endured all for the kingdom's sake.

I may be mean and jaded about this, but I would not allow unsupervised visits at all. Not so sure I'd allow supervised visits either if said grandparent would treat me cooly in my own home. It makes me uncomfortable and kids pick up on the 'vibe'.

It's a tough situation. Not sure what I would do in this situation. But boy, oh boy! From what you've told us, your parents are wackier than most. They scare me.

-Aude.

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Meeting others????

by DATA-DOG in

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are you like me, afraid of meeting up with faders and ex-jws??

i am afraid to be ratted out.

the only person that i have ever personally spoke to is raypublisher, well on the phone ans skype.

AudeSapere

I have met many xJWs in real life. Exceptionally good experiences for me.

However, I have heard just a handful of problems from other people on JWN. So I suppose it makes sense to keep your distance and anonimity if you are still trying to fade.

It's a pity, because there is something so very special about being able to look someone in the eye and tell your story. And to hear their's.

If you were in California, I know quite a few people you can trust...

-Aude.

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Into Darkness - Jehovah's witnesses history

by Dis-Member in

another video on jehovah's witnesses / watchtower's history.. .

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5jnngqqyvc.

AudeSapere

Thank you.

(marking for later)

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Blood issue - widower pressing charges

by Gypsy Sam in

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http://www.bellanaija.com/2013/01/08/woman-dies-after-jehovah-witness-family-refused-her-accepting-blood-transfusion-widower-to-press-charges-against-wifes-family/.

i feel bad for the hubby..

AudeSapere

This article is from a year ago. I wonder if it ever made it to court and what the outcome was...?

-Aude.

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Interview with a former Bethelite who now knows TTATT

by RayPublisher in

if you like these here's one with a fellow that has gotten his family out recently:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3nqfprloog.

AudeSapere

Thank you. Marking to listen tomorrow.

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What do you say if you get asked "Are you an Apostate?"

by KateWild in

i am reuniting with past students and return visits.. i met up with a young lad i used to call on.

he is not baptised, but at university in his 20's and living away from home.

his mother is a jw and his father is not.

AudeSapere

The WT is full of 'loaded language'. Also, their definitions of the phrases they use are not necessarily the same as how the rest of the world uses the same words and phrases.

I would first ask the questioner to define his understanding of the word/title in question. Then, without applying a title, I would (maybe) consider stating my position/opinion.

Also, I would never use the abbreviation TTATT with a sympathetic JW. I might use the phrase "The truth about 'the truth'", but not the word 'T-TATT' or 'TTATT' itself. That is a sure why to get yourself labeled.

Plus I don't think it sounds right. But that's just me.

-Aude.

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I need help in dealing with a toxic family member!!!!

by hoser in

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i have a close family member who is a pro in using shame to try to make me feel bad.

they are coming to stay at my place soon and the issue of me and mrs hoser not attending/ doing field service will come up no doubt.. i need some advice on how to deal with this because whenever i deal with these relatives they make me feel worthless.

it is probably part because they are jw's and jw's motivate by fear and guilt.. .

AudeSapere

For me, the best way to deal with something like this is keep the visit as short as possible and you stay has upbeat and optimistic as possible.

Avoid talking about religion. Be ready with a comeback for when they ask about your spirituality (or other some such prying question), tell them you are doing very well. If they push further, repeat that you are doing very well spiritually. If they continue, tell them it's personal and between you and Jehovah and you have never felt more content with your relationship. (I hope this is true.)

Be happy with your life. Talk about hobbies that enthrall you. Get everybody outside and go for a hike or a long walk. Or just send your self out for a couple of errands or a long solo walk.

Do some activity (art gallery show, museum, movie) something new that you can all talk about.

Good luck with the visit. I hope you can find/create a few fun moments and memories with them.

-Aude.

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For the many who remember "just2laws," he had a massive heart attack last night...

by AndersonsInfo in

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and died at home in panama city beach, florida.

steve imhof, a bethelite in the 1970s and former very active elder who became a very vocal wt critic starting in 2002, was 65 years old when he died.

he was father to three children and two grandchildren.

AudeSapere

Much too young.

-Aude.

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Child custody problems

by A.proclaimer in

this is the letter that was read today in the congregation:.

to all congregations in the united states territory.

re:child custody packet.

AudeSapere

3rdgen asked: Does anybody remember when the WTBT$ insisted they were NOT a religion????

Oh! I clearly remember that. And Kingdom Halls are not churches (although *sometimes* they were listed under churches in the phonebook - but not always).

And this 'packet' has been referenced on this website many times. One most notable with poster 'alamb' where the elder speaking on behalf of the JW spouse denied that such a packet existed... Repeated denied its existance... All while the judge had a copy right in front of him.

Makes me ill to think about it.

-Aude.

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Just wanting clarification on the RBC

by joe134cd in

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i have been reading threads about how the rbc operates, so i sort of have a fair idea of what the answers will be.

but i would like to have a more direct answer to my questions.. where do the orders come from that a hall is in need of a remodel, or a new one to be built.. can the elders refuse a remodel or quickly built.. out side contractors are only allowed with rbc approval.

what are the consequences if say a kh needed a new roof, and secular contractor was hired.. is it a case that orders a given that a hall needs a remodel, and that the rbc will have total control, and look out for who ever gets in the way, and elders just have to simply comply.. this is the question i most want answered.

AudeSapere

3rdgen wrote: The Menlo Park debacle was the tipping point...

Does anyone have a link or two to a thread or newspaper article on this?

-Aude.

EDIT TO ADD: Nevermind. I found a few...

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/207456/1/Menlo-Park-Kingdom-Hall-3#.UsYtRPveTQI

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/223918/1/Menlo-Park-KH-Elder-Tells-All-and-more#.UsYttPveTQI