Posts by AudeSapere

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Prescott Arizona

by ducatijoe in

i was an elder in prescott for many years... anyone now out from there?

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ADMIN: Please Help/Advise - 'Open' vs 'Save' File @ Opening a Thread

by AudeSapere in

the thread 'prescott arizona' by new poster ducatijoe now has that weird box that pops up when trying to open the thread.

before opening, it prompts to ask if you want to 'save' or 'open' the file.. i am concerned that there is a contamination in one of the posts to the thread.. .

can someone tell me if it is safe to open?

AudeSapere

The thread 'Prescott Arizona' by new poster ducatijoe now has that weird box that pops up when trying to open the thread. Before opening, it prompts to ask if you want to 'Save' or 'Open' the file.

I am concerned that there is a contamination in one of the posts to the thread.

Can someone tell me if it is safe to open? Or maybe someone can clean it up?

Thanks!

-Aude.

EDIT TO ADD: Nevermind. It seems to have been fixed. Sorry for interruption...!

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Get well Grace (Mouthy)

by label licker in

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a loud get well grace from all of us to you.

everyone, grace has been in and out of the hospital and i'm sure she would love to read your get wells.

we miss you grace:) wish i could post pictures.

AudeSapere

I miss you when you're not here. Feel better QUICK!!

Aude.

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Prescott Arizona

by ducatijoe in

i was an elder in prescott for many years... anyone now out from there?

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AudeSapere

I had family in Scottsdale but never been to Prescott. I hear it's pretty, though.

Very odd that not many posts. Wonder if this post was very early in the morning and then buried. Oh well. It's back on top now.

Welcome to JWN! Looking forward to hearing your story.

-Aude. (meaning: Dare to know; Dare to have wisdom/understanding; Dare to think for yourself)

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In our local news... Jehovah's Witnesses LIED to Man with Brain injury

by Newly Enlightened in

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http://krqe.com/2014/05/08/family-of-man-with-brain-injury-fights-building-plan/.

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https://www.facebook.com/savejimsview.

AudeSapere

Rule One: Always get it in writing. Always.

I feel bad for the non-jw couple, though.

-Aude.

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GUILT TRIPS AND EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL!!!

by DATA-DOG in

all hell has broken loose at my house!

the wife is pissed [ i did not turn in the "voluntary tithe" slip .

if she doesn't go, then she cannot do x event tomorrow.

Actually, rather than articles, how about just standing up for your daughter? Tell the mother that Jesus would not guilt someone into going to a meeting. And manipulating her into attending by threatening to withhold a treat (tomorrow's event) does nothing but confuse and anger the daughter. The meeting is on a school nite. The social event is not. Tell mom to 'back-off'. It's tough enough being a teenager. If she needs a break one evening and chooses to stay home (with dad), and rest, then let her. You will be hero to your daughter. (Mom... not so much.)

Hope it all works out for you.

-Aude.

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GUILT TRIPS AND EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL!!!

by DATA-DOG in

all hell has broken loose at my house!

the wife is pissed [ i did not turn in the "voluntary tithe" slip .

if she doesn't go, then she cannot do x event tomorrow.

AudeSapere

When did you marry my mom???

I feel bad for your daughter but sadly, have no articles to share. Hopefully someone brilliant will give you an assist.

Hugs to the daughter.

-Aude.

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The resolution was actually passed!

by stillin in

who would have thought that enough people would raise their hands when the resolution was put before the congregation tonight?

based on the pledges that the publishers put on those little pieces of paper, the congregation is promising the wts that they will send $1,000/month to support the society's building funds.. there is a traditional monthly shortfall of about $100 with the basic monthly bills usually around $1,000.

i didn't raise my hand.

AudeSapere

I have seen a resolution be questioned and even opposed, twice, I think. But it was just one or two people in opposition. The majority won.

-Aude.

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Are you complicit if you stay in?

by mrhhome in

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i am going to throw down the gaunlet.

those who know the truth but stay in anyways are complicit in actions of the jehovah witness organization.

while i am sympathetic to the very difficult choices that they have to make, their unwillingness to confront the jw enables the organization.. some of you may remember my story.

AudeSapere

"Complicit" is the exact word I used when I told myself that I could no longer sit in my chair in the Hall I had attended for many years. "Complicit" is the concept that gave me the courage to get up and leave in the middle of a Public Talk one Sunday when I decided that I could not sit silently in my seat and listen to what I was hearing from the platform while knowing several things that were dramatically wrong in just my hall.

At the time, I felt there was no way to express my concerns about mistreatment/disregard of children and women and the general lack of love and appreciation of congregation members without being brought under judicial inquiry for speaking against the organization.

To remain silently seated was to be complicit with the actions of the leaders and the congregation members. My conscience would not let stay put. I was a 'walk-away believer', though. So my leaving honestly and sincerely an act of loyalty to Jehovah.

I up and left. They never came looking for me. My family never asked 'why'.

A few have invited me back over the past 20 years. I (mostly) politely decline.

Others feel a need to stay - for a variety of reasons. I kind of get it. They have to do what they feel is right for themselves and their family - even if I think the better decision is to leave and find unconditional friends. You, unfortunately, inherited a cultic mess. Good luck with that! If I were you, I'd probably be inclined to laugh and tell them that I think they are ALL f'in nuts and the shunning is the most *UN*-christian thing I've ever seen. And tell them that until they get rid of that non-christian behaviour, I don't even want to waste my precious time listening to anything remotely religious that they have to say.

Please keep in touch here and let us know how things progress. But yes, I agree that 'complicit' is what JWs are - especially the ones who have woken up.

-Aude.

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The List, by "Prominent Bethelite"

by morloc in

i occasionally pop through here to catch up on the latest, but this time i'm going to pop my own post on here.. some of you internet oldsters may even remember this.

my first experience on the internet regarding discussions about jehovah's witnesses and the watchtower took place on a now-obscure usenet group, before i eventually stumbled across hourglass2.. during those days, there was a poster who went by the name "prominent bethelite," an otherwise anonymous individual whom i remember most for an extensive, exhaustive compilation of date-oriented remarks, predictions, and expectations by the watchtower organization down through the decades of its history.. it became known as "the list" and it's definitely lengthy... but a fascination look at the abundance of errant statements made through the watchtower's history.. if you're curious, it's been available for a long time on hourglass2's site, and can be seen using the link provided below.. the list, compiled by prominent bethelite (1999).

that's about it for this stop through here.

AudeSapere

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