Oh man! I usually look at the last post in a thread before commenting on a post in the middle.
I knew better. And yet now I see that I stepped into a little poo.
Oh well. I'm backing out of this post.
Apologies to the OP.
*scraping poo off my shoe*
so, once again the society has produced a cringe-worthy, spew-inducing piece of "cinema".. i don't recognise this religion anymore...... enjoy this review:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f0tovqkfem.
Oh man! I usually look at the last post in a thread before commenting on a post in the middle.
I knew better. And yet now I see that I stepped into a little poo.
Oh well. I'm backing out of this post.
Apologies to the OP.
*scraping poo off my shoe*
so, once again the society has produced a cringe-worthy, spew-inducing piece of "cinema".. i don't recognise this religion anymore...... enjoy this review:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f0tovqkfem.
Rabbi Midge wrote: "...The story is basically a parable asking the Jews to reconsider their own views of uniqueness. Were we truly chosen by God to be his only people?..."
Interesting.
Rabbi Midge also wrote: All you had to do was trust your gut,
Watchtower instilled in us over and over again to *not* 'trust our guts'.
Thank you SOO much for taking time to comment on this thread. I really enjoyed reading your comments.
i have just received an email from an elder's wife regarding the new data protection laws.
between the lines it sounds like she has been asked to contact me.. she says they 'don't want to leave me out' so they want me to fill out the form as 'i'm still part of the congregation'.
also, my blood card needs updating, apparently.. the elder in charge will be in contact.. obviously, i'm not doing either, but what do i do?
AndersAnderson wrote: The face that an unauthorized elderette knows you haven't filled out these forms and that your dpa is overdue shows how much JW cares about your personal data.
They will share it with everyone and anyone whenever they want.
VERY good point.
Assembly Hall in Woodland Hills CA sold about 10 (??) years ago.
not sure where i picked this up:.
self explanatory science and medical advice from the faithful and brilliant servant class in brooklyn________________________________________thomas edison, the inventor and electrician, of phonograph and telephone fame, has been experimenting with the new light "x-rays.
" and has succeeded in taking a photograph through oak eight inches thick.
Terrifying to remember that some of us were very young children under guidance of our parents who believed this nonsense.
we urgently need to offer "resistance strategy" help to pimos who are likely to be harassed by elders seeking their consent for wtbt$ to leech their data.
what questions could pimos ask elders, that elders would be unable to answer?
(thus buying time, because elder would need to "check with branch").
Marking for later.
perhaps this line of questioning could agitate a jw's thinking.
it can't hurt.. you: is shunning a biblical teaching?.
jw: yes.. you: so it must be god's law?.
My response to this now is: Jesus wouldn't do it.
you might be a jehovah's witness if, to not feel guilty on saturday morning, you ride in a car with a group of adults driving in circles around town taking turns to get out one at a time to knock on a door that you hoped no one would answer.. you might be a jw if going on vacation meant going to a summer regional or district assembly where you did not need to pack shorts, tennis shoes, or tank tops.
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you might be a jw if for lunch at the summer convention you and your family ate breakfast food from the holiday inn where you are staying for the summer assembly.. you might be a jw if the first thing that you think about when waking up in the morning is that it is meeting night.. you might be a jw if you introduce a person to another jw, not by the person's name by as my bible study.. you might be a jw if you don't celebrate christmas but will take the money from your employer to not come to work so that you can celebrate it..
Funny and true!
a few threads recently made me think of how cruel jehovah's witnesses are in shunning around death.
i don't have much experience with death.
i lost my non-jw grandpa when i was 12 (?
This:
dogisgod wrote: I recommend that those of you who are barred from your families memorials, have your own. Do it the way that brings closure (if that's possible) and peace of mind.
so as you all know, my wife and i are not officially df or da.. a small event happened this week that i have to share!.
a family that we were really close to (dinners and catch ups several times a month , go out socially often, play sport together, helped them through tough times, like uncle and aunty to their kids, etc).
the wife's father died.
This:
Incognito wrote:Taking an alternate view, maybe the father's death has hit them harder than you recognize. Perhaps they are in shock and consumed with grief and so are not acting as themselves and are not associating their behaviour with acting rudely.
I lost both parents in the fairly-recent past. The passing of a parent can affect some people very hard. I think having a JW past complicates things exponentially - especially if someone is a little 'weak'.
The loss can make you face everything you thought you knew. And feelings and insights can change daily.
There can be a crisis of belief with the survivor.
Manners and normal gratifude can easily be skipped by a someone have a great personal crisis.
JWs are not accustomed to grieving. And they usually don't understand the benefit of grieving.
And when they lose a parent, survivors are forced to confront their own mortality. An extremely sobering concept for those raised on assertion that they 'Can Live Forever in Paradise On Earth' and "Millions Now Living Will Never Die."
One of the best things that one of my friend did a few weeks after my dad passed last year was to call to say she was in the neighborhood and asked if she could come by for just a few minutes. Very impromptu. Just she and I. We had a cup of tea and chatted in my home. And I cried without worrying about disturbing other people. She just said she was thinking of me and let me talk. She listened patiently and let me cry.
It was powerful and kind and helpful to me.
Maybe don't read too much into the brusque reply about the flowers.
Maybe reach out to one of them for an informal one-on-one to show that you still really do care about them as a person. And as a friend.