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  Lets Start An Urban Myth!

  by Englishman in

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  Estee,

  New Light article in Watchtower Study Article: "Maintain God-Honoring Weight In The Time of the End"...., with an inset box that relates how a young sister from the Midwest lost a bunch of weight when she realized how God-Dishonoring her weight was.......another inset box could have helpful hints for the congregation to help those who were struggling with their weight....

  Or, excerpt from letter to Elders: "....So then, beginning in September of 2003 the Body of Elders in each congregation will meet to review the weight of each baptized and unbaptized publisher. Those individuals not meeting the guideline weight should be approached by two assigned elders who will kindly explain to the erring one that six months are being allowed for them to adjust their weight. Of course, if any exceptional circumstances arise in connection with this direction from the Society, the elders should promptly write to the Society...."

  ---Dan

  Edited for typos, grammar

  Edited by - Dannyboy on 8 January 2003 17:35:15
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  Lets Start An Urban Myth!

  by Englishman in

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  [Background: Here in the US it has been widely reported that obesity is just as dangerous as smoking when it comes to life expectancy, so.....]

  Overweight Witnesses will be given 6 months to lower their weight down to "acceptable" levels (each elder body will judge what will be an acceptable weight), those not complying will be disfellowshipped. Each congregation will maintain an "official" scale, etc. etc.

  ---Dan
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  Last Post - My Most Painful Public Confession

  by Amazing in

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  my most painful confession

  note to simon: i will use some expletives, but i hope that they will be retained as this is intended to be an otherwise civil and thoughtful post to all my fellow ex-jws.

  please read on, as this is most painful.

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  Jim,

  Best wishes on continuing recovery, both physical and religiously.

  Your posts are always thought-provoking and will be missed.

  This "last" post is one of your best, IMHO. Thank you.

  ---Dan
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  Paranoid Schizophrenia

  by Nickey in

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  this is an issue that i've had to look into due to the extreme paranoia of my mother.

  it's getting ridiculous.

  and it get's worse everytime she reads the publications.

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  The laws that apply to how to get someone help vary greatly from place to place.

  What follows is for California:

  Here in California, the "5150" law covers the "non-consenting" situation (i.e. getting someone help who does not see the need for it). The thrust of the law is that the person must be either:

  1. A threat to themselves as witnessed by a person who is listed in the law (i.e. Police Officer, Doctor, etc.)

  2. A threat to someone else as witnessed by a person who is listed in the law (i.e. Police Officer, Doctor, etc.)

  In other words, bringing a relative or other loved one to a hospital or mental health facility in California and making a statement about what the person has been doing, has said, etc. won't get you anywhere (remember, this is for California). The reason for this seems to be concern for a false claim of mental illness so greedy children/relatives could benefit financially, etc. So the law here in California makes it difficult to get help for a high-functioning person who needs help but doesn't recognize the need.

  Even if the person meets at least one of the above two criteria, they are only taken in for a maximum of 72 hours. If the medical professionals don't see sufficient evidence to hold the person further, they get released. Imagine the situation where you succeed in getting the person in for treatment, only to have them released and come back home to vent their feelings on you......Been there. Done that.

  The agonizing thing here is that some people who don't see the need for professional help can function quite high-level, (i.e. not manifest symptoms continually), making the prospect of getting them needed assistance a minefield. I know. Been there, done that.

  It is my understanding that some other states have much more enlightened statutes on this issue, for example, requiring a brief mental evaluation upon sworn statements of specific people (adult son/daughter, spouse, etc.)

  I don't know enough about the situation described above and feel personally restrained from giving advice about moving out, etc. But I can understand the concern.

  Nickey, hope this helps. You are not alone. As you can see, lots here in this forum have lots of love and concern to share.

  ---Dan
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  Paranoid Schizophrenia

  by Nickey in

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  this is an issue that i've had to look into due to the extreme paranoia of my mother.

  it's getting ridiculous.

  and it get's worse everytime she reads the publications.

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  Nickey,

  You ask:

  Has anybody else had this problem with family or friends?

  Yes, I have.

  Having someone close to us/loved by us begin to display paranoid symptoms, truly having schizophrenia, or worse yet, having both (paranoid schizophrenia) is a very, very difficult situation. I found coming to grips with the situation and trying to "fix" it to be the most difficult thing I have ever done. Gut-wrenching, soul-searching, un-nerving, painful......

  My heart goes out to you, just on the basis of what you describe, even if there's no "diagnosis" of what you suspect.

  There is a lot to read and consider about schizophrenia at http://www.schizophrenia.com By the way, true Schizophrenia is usually (though certainly not always) manifest before a person reaches their mid-twenties or earlier.

  I have noticed that some witnesses display a sort of "persecution complex" type approach to the things non-witnesses just pass off as normal events in life. But sounds like you are describing something more involved than this.

  Hope this helps.

  ---Dan
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  LambsRoar Reply to Mr. Bill Bowen - Slander &am...

  by RevMalk in

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  to those of you who have had the misfortune of receiving mr. bowen's silentlambs newsletter.

  unfortunately mr. bowen feels the need to lie to you all, and slander the name of abuse survivors he claims to protect and serve.

  a copy of his most recent attack is below my short response.

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  DannyBear:

  From the moment he 'burned rubber' in the Kingdom Hall lot, there in Arkansas.....I knew where he was headed

  FWIW, same thought occured to me at the time.

  ---Dan
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  Is There An Electrician In The House?

  by Englishman in

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  just got a note through the door.

  bristol water are re-laying our streets water mains - in plastic.

  they say that this may mean that the electrical earthing system to our home will become non-functional, so, don't blame us if you get a belt mr englishman, you have been warned, and it's your problem to fix it!

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  FWIW,

  Yep, you gotta look into what the building code there requires in terms of grounding. Special consideration needs to be given to the beach-type soil you have, (if I understood that correctly).

  I second most of what's been offered, especially about making sure it's done right, i.e. through hiring a competent local "sparks".

  May all your shorts be well-grounded.

  ---Dan

  Edited for grammer

  Edited by - Dannyboy on 19 December 2002 17:5:23
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  moral dilemna

  by zanex in

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  i have been df'd for a good long time and have gone/going through the different stages of the healing process but i dont think that i am anywhere to giving up all of my deep-seated anger and hostility that i continue to have.

  i have gotten attatched to it, ironically enough.

  my moral and maybe somewhat ethical delimmna is: i am in a service provider position and i provide translation services for members of a specific community of interest...problem is that a certain person has come into my focus of the world...an elder.......a great many bones in my body want to manipulate and maneuver his life into the palm of my hand....then crush him.

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  zanex,

  "Getting back" in the sense you suggest (I'm sure your comments are tongue-in-cheek) would feel good only for a very short time. Then you would remember that the elder is just another victim of the Watchtower Society, just like you and me. Sort of like getting back at the bullet instead of the shooter, if you follow me.

  Victims of victims.....

  Even the demise of the Society will still leave a huge earth-wide collection of broken lives, and fractured personalities.

  My two cents.

  ---Dan
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  How to keep Jehova Witnesses....

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  UR:

  I haven't seen the joke either, and can't wait either... I hope Europe hasn't given up on the whole thing.

  ---Dan
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  What are they saying? Competition.

  by dmouse in

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  ok, i was having a chuckle to myself this morning looking at this month's pictures on the jw calendar, which depicts the cheesy activities of the elders.

  i was wondering if folks would like to suggest what they are actually saying on this picture: .

  my suggestion is: .

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  You guys are a riot.

  ROFLMAO

  ---Dan