It's sad that some choose to follow this b/s advice. What happens when they become old & ill like all the other WT generations of 'hopefulls'? It might dawn on them that they were silly to be lead by the ideas of men.
jambon1
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From Rutherford -2008 Watchtower ="dont have kid's till after Armagedon!"
by Witness 007 inyes i thought rutherford's policy on kid's was dead and the society had wised up....until i read the new "witnesses only" watchtower study magazine...compare.. rutherford's last book "children" 1942 = p.281 "wait until after armagedon to bring children into the world...it is only afew years before the other sheep are gathered to the lord, until armagedon...those with infants during armagedon will have greater woe...it would be a far greater difficulty to care for them during the tribulation.".
watchtower 2008 april 15 p.19 {picture of a middle aged couple witnessing with question: why do some christian couples decide not to have children?
} paragraph 12 "single or childless for a noble purpose.....numerous couples have decided to remain childless....they often do so to remain freer to serve jehovah...they are willing to place kingdom interests above some of the privileges that go with marriage...jehovah will not forget their work, and the love they show for his name...there will be a great tribulation...doubtless, it will be a difficult time for all of us-adults and children alike.".
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Appalling Mind Control Comment from CO
by betweenworlds ini just came across this comment by someone from a group i belong to .
we just had the visit of our co...his wife made this comment to me:.
"'as i was reading the very powerful articles in the last public issue of the wt with study articles...i couldn't help but imagine that the brothers are waving a goodbye to people!'...
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jambon1
All of these kind of comments got me thinking when i was a JW. It took time & I confided in no-one regarding my thoughts about what was said from the platform. For certain JW's, it is stuff like this that simply chips away at their 'spirituality'. Anyone worth their salt eventually realises that stuff like this is out of order. Bring it on I say.
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Iran - to Stone To Death 2 Sisters
by Rabbit inhttp://snafu-ed.blogspot.com/2008/02/iranian-sisters-to-be-stoned-to-death.html.
this is not a 'muslim bashing' thread.
it is a perfect example why old words, found in caves, written by someone you don't know...in a desert far, far away can be dangerous.. turkey, a 98% muslim country is a secular country.
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jambon1
Filth! No other word for it. Unfortunately, I have watched stoning videos on the web. It was one of the most terrible things I have ever seen. Religion sucks. All of it.
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Two years out of the org for me. What I have learned & accepted about life!
by jambon1 inif i had written this a year ago, i would be writting different comments about my observations.. yet, that is the pivotal point for me.
that is the reason why i could never have remained a jw.
my point?
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jambon1
Isn't life a wee bit strange? If I had written this a year ago, I would be writting different comments about my observations.
Yet, that is the pivotal point for me. That is the reason why I could never have remained a JW. My point? - Life changes your opinions. You don't always have the same opinion about something now, that you had when you were 18.
But the WTS asks you to take an oath. To 'swear' to believe something forever. Isn't that a bit silly?
When I was 18 and new in the truth, you couldn't stop me. I really felt like I believed it at one time. As I progressed, I pioneered & became a m/s. I was zealous.
But, very quickly, as my responsibilities changed in life, I started to change my views on certain matters. And, because the WTS dictates your views on almost every tiny little matter in life, I found myself having inner conflicts all the time. I was having to give talks on the platform, to say words that I started to question, to doubt.
At the time this was very difficult. In actual fact, my mental stability was on the rocks because I was thinking so deeply about lots of different matters, My opinions and views were changing and there was nothing that I could do about it.
But that is what I have come to accept about life. You change! And rather than fighting it, you should embrace it.
At the moment, I can look back at how I thought as an 'inactive non-returning person' & I can honestly say that my views have chaged between then & now. It's only 2 years. But I am learning & changing all the time.
The important thing is to make the changes positive ones.
I have been down a very rocky road in the last 2 years & I have only been emptionally stable for about the last 6 months. Its only in recent weeks that I have reached a sort of epithany regarding how I should properly deal with my family circumstances as an ex-JW. It has been hard. But after reading this site (and others), doing a lot of thinking & a lot of crying & arguing, you eventually get there.
After that wee ramble, I suppose I am saying that my main observation of life is that you should never say never. My thoughts & opinions now will not be the same when I am 70. But as long as I am living by being true to myself, I will be happy. Don't be something you don't want to be.
Trying to be something that I couldn't? It almost killed me. Literally.
PS - Can I just add that humour & not taking youself too seriously are other major factors.
I wish you the all the bst on your journey.
Slainte!
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The night I decided my C.O. was an apostate
by Olin Moyles Ghost inthe following took place several years ago in a congregation in the united states.
we had this circuit overseer who was a real piece of work.
40-ish mts grad, i believe.
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jambon1
The job of a CO must be surreal. One minute you are all wrapped up in the goo and adoration of gods organisation. The next, you are dealing with 2 or 3 warring factions in a congregation. Having to listen to people manipulating their situation as the ones who are right. We had a few congregation splits. It all stems from a culture of people who are suspicious, judgemental & crafty.
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Comical Memories While You Were A Witness
by minimus inin all the years i was a witness, i must admit there were some pretty funny things that i can remember.
i can't forget the time after i had given a public talk and the sister who played the piano ran from the bathroom to the piano with half of her dress still tucked in her pantyhose.
brothers and sisters were trying in vain to run down the long aisle but to no avail.
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jambon1
One older brother would show up at the Thursday meeting & without fail, every time he would dump his load in the toilet before the meeting. It totally stank the back area out. For some reason this always tickled me.
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jambon1
BabaYaga - Yes, as I was typing my current 'JW status', I thought that I may have coined a new ex-JW term. LOL!
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Whose name on here do you like...
by My Struggle inthere was someones name on here that i thought was great, but cannot remember what it is.. what are some of the better screen names?.
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jambon1
I am the same with Almost Atheist. I was a JW that had atheistic ideas at the time I came to this board. He also helped me out with a lot of good advice during a VERY difficult & confusing time in my life. Can't believe it was 2 years ago now.
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jambon1
I am not d/f'd. However some of the local 'brothers' have decided to play games with me. Not that I willingly participate, but you catch my drift. One local elder decides to shun me some days & talk to me others. Some other 'friends' like to drive past me in their cars without waving nowadays, even though they see me coming. On the other hand, a lot of JW's still like me & talk to me openly. It's strange. I find it funny how JW's don't really have 'instruction' on how to treat 'non-returning inactive people'. Thinking for themselves sure throws up a range of different reactions.
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Even active witnesses think this is way over the top.....
by yourmomma inthere were gasps after watching this.
i heard the anti college talks at the dc this year, and while many people i know didnt agree with them, this following video stunned many of them.
there are many people on this forum, many have gotten to where they are many different ways.
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jambon1
"We are not masters over your faith" - Aye, ok then.