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  What do you know about Scotland & Scottish witness culture

  by jambon1 in

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  so what do you know?.

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  So what do you know?
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  Which is your favourite single malt Scotch Whisky, and why?

  by lifelong humanist in

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  as a true scot, i'm deeply passionate about most things scottish, any possibly one of our small nation's most successful export is my main favourite - our single malt whisky heritage.. i'm writing this while savouring a 12 year old highland park - distilled in the orkney islands, the most northerly distillery in scotland.

  it is one of my favourites - it was my late father's favourite tipple.

  yet, only 500m from my house is scotlands oldest legal whisky distillery - glenturret, in crieff.

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  I drank a bottle of Glenmorangie the day that Heart of Midlothian FC won the Scottish Cup in 1998 against Rangers.

  It has always evoked happy memories & is still one of the best whiskeys.

  Every new year I still 1st foot my old man with a bottle of the stuff.

  Happy, happy days.
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  Did You Start "Losing It" As A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  were you emotionally or mentally unbalanced at any time while you were a jehovah's witness?.

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  I always refer to the fact that in normal society I was a succesful young man who should have had the world at his feet (around 2002/03). In reality, as a JW I was a paranoid, insecure, pessemistic, depressing individual. I rmember on more than one occasion going into meltdown. The cause? Who knows. But, I did feel completely under pressure as a JW ministerial servant/pioneer.

  When I had my 1st little baby daughter I was forced to take note of my mental stability.

  I knew that I had to leave this religion. Not just for me now, but for my kids. I considered others now.

  I left. It hasn't been easy. Yet I considered suicide as a way out when I was in the religion.

  I'm happy I gained the courage & left.

  I really could have been dead*.

  *One night I was so miserable, I drank a litre of whiskey. I must have downed my last at around 11.20pm. I had to get up for work at 4.30am. I got up & managed to trace the line of a familiar tree on a stretch of road where I was able to do 60mph in my car. I considered just driving off the road & ending it all that day. I was a young man who had a lovely wife & 2 little healthy children. I was so overtaken by my misery in that religion.

  I just had to leave. For my own sanity & the future of my kids.
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  What Things Were YOU Counseled For?

  by minimus in

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  elders love to counsel people.

  it feeds their ego.

  over the years, you must've been counseled on different things.. when i was almost of age to become a ms, an elder counseled me for my "lack of seriousness".

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  At one time I was counselled for being 'too happy'. On the platform, mucking around at ministry arrangements, laughing at the back of the hall etc, etc.

  Athough I was fairly miserable having to be a JW, I adapted and tried to make the most of it until I left. When the above was mentioned to me I realised I was in the wrong place altogether.

  I really do feel that JW's (generally) are a right miserable bunch. Negative, depressing individuals. They walk around with the weight of the world on their shoulders.

  No thanks!

  Life is good, live it.
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  The Watchtower hates Scotsmen

  by kurtbethel in

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  because i have carefully looked over every picture and representation i can find of the so called paradise earth published in the last 30 years.

  there are people in all sorts of clothing from many cultures, american casual, african, asian, hispanic, and others.. but i have not seen a single image that shows you kilt wearers will make it into the new systemtm!.

  does that make you so angry that your sporran stands on edge?.

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  Women love us men in kilts.
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  I went to my 1st JW 'gathering' in 3 years

  by jambon1 in

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  the negative outlook of the jehovahs witnesses made me leave the religion.

  i was a young man (you can read my previous experiences) who was consumed by negativity.

  it made me want to kill myself at one point.. i went to a gathering with my wife recently & i have to say that they are just as negative as i was, but worse.. consumed with depressing tales of misery, depression & general pessimism.. in no way would i be attracted to those people.

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  The negative outlook of the jehovahs witnesses made me leave the religion. I was a young man (you can read my previous experiences) who was consumed by negativity. It made me want to kill myself at one point.

  I went to a gathering with my wife recently & I have to say that they are just as negative as I was, but worse.

  Consumed with depressing tales of misery, depression & general pessimism.

  In no way would I be attracted to those people. In no way would I want to be a part of their negative mindset.

  It took me 5 years to leave all of that behind. Nothing has changed.

  It makes me sad to think that so many people wasted their lives in that religion.

  Life is good. You gotta live it!

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  Circuit & District Overseers That Made An Impact

  by minimus in

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  we have a lot of new ones on this site as well as some who have been here for years----i know this subject has been brought up before, but were there any memorable cos or dos that you can recall?.

  co arnie scneider was my last co when i was an elder.

  he was a very sweet man..

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  Ian Shanks was someone who made me re-believe the truth at a time when I was thoroughly toiling to hang on to the religion. Looking back, he was a proper society man who had a quiet ruthless streak (seen in my ministerial servant capacity & not obvious to many others). At the time I liked him.

  I just can't see past the idea that all CO's/DO's are real society men who are in a sort of JW bubble. Maybe it''s nice for them but when all things come to pass and they are possibly let down by the WTS or their beliefs then we shall see the making of the man.

  I'd rather live in the real world & be properly equiped to deal with lifes inevitablities.

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  Everything About Being An Elder is Weird (my misc rambling memories of being an elder)

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  for any brother who is a jehovah's witness, the goal is put before them to reach out for the privilege of being an elder.

  i can only speak for myself, but being born into the religion, i wanted to be an elder since i was 5. i would have much rather wanted to be a doctor or engineer, but those are the breaks..... i'll skip the part about what it takes to reach out, all the crap you have to put up with as a ministerial servant to get appointed, and go straight to the reality.. i know many elders who sincerely just wanted to be shepherds.

  i did want the spotlight.

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  Although only having been a MS, I can relate to some of what you mentioned. My initial good intentions were totally sapped by the internal politics, arse licking etc that goes on among the appointed men. Laterly I attended CO/MS/elders meetings & kingdom ministry schools for MS's. I was appalled by the sort of stuff that was discussed. It made me see how utterly controlled we all were from the appointed men to the rank & file witnesses. The WTS 'methods' were totally against everything I stood for. One month I gave a part on a kingdom ministry school, the next month I walked out of my congregation & never returned.

  Living as a JW wasn't ever for me. Getting to see the inner workings just made me realise it.
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  November 15 Watchtower (Study Edition) - discourages showing affection to your spouse

  by CrazyBlonde in

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  another gem from the same edition - article to be studied december 28 - january 3 (which most will miss lol coz of summer vacation) entitled "what do your prayers say about you?

  " page 6 para 19 reads:.

  19 when we are being represented in public prayer, we need to display reverential "fear of god.

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  I suppose this rules out the elders having a sly 'ham shank' under the table during a judicial comitee as they enquire about another persons sexual habits?

  What an absolute crock of bullshit.

  Really.
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  Why do JW's pussyfoot around saying what Armegeddon really is?

  by Sour Grapes in

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  jw's make armegeddon sound so sterile with statements like:.

  "when god brings an end to this old system.

  " "when jehovah.

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  My wife does this. When I go into the details of what they believe, and why I couldn't continue to believe it she becomes very uncomfortable.