it's sad alot of you on here arent there anymore, if we all were united and stuck to our guns(so to speak) things wouldnt have got so bad...but sadly too many rotten apples,weeds,suffercate the wheat like ones.
Are you being serious?
Stick to our guns? What, like over the blood issue being wrong & unnecessary? Disfellowshipping being extreem, cruel & unloving?
Paedophiles holding down positions in the cong? Lying elders?
Stick to our guns? When surrounded by stuff like this? No thanks. You're being insulting.
And we are the 'rotten apples', the 'weeds?'. Go away and have a word with yourself.
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I remember thinking 'why would I want anyone to change from being in the world to a JW?'
by jambon1 indid anyone else feel this way & if so, at what stage in your time as a jw?.
i remember i must have been in the org for about 6 or 7 years.
i was always trying to be the life & soul of the cong.
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I remember thinking 'why would I want anyone to change from being in the world to a JW?'
by jambon1 indid anyone else feel this way & if so, at what stage in your time as a jw?.
i remember i must have been in the org for about 6 or 7 years.
i was always trying to be the life & soul of the cong.
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Did anyone else feel this way & if so, at what stage in your time as a JW?
I remember I must have been in the org for about 6 or 7 years. I was always trying to be the life & soul of the cong. The class clown if you like (even though inside I was depressed). I was this way until the day I walked out of the KH for the last time. Outwardly, I was all that. Enjoying life as a JW. I was chatty, gregarious. Interested in people both inside & outside the cong.
As a result, I had some nice calls with people on the ministry. I would pretty much only deliver magazines & answer any questions, if they asked. I had a big magazine route which included lots of elderly people & mid-aged men/women. I used to love hearing their strorys & things about their family, grandkids, etc. Perhaps I was just nosey!
As I have mentioned on here previously, I would look around our cong and see lots of depressed people. I could relate to them in a way as inwardly I was miserable. I saw lots of problems with marriages & family life. No-one seemed to be happy or upbeat about life. 90% of the cong were negative people. Most people had ongoing problems. Lots were on anti-depressants. Utterly depressing it was.
Unlike my calls. The worldly people. Not all of them. But most. They were all pretty much contented & had lead happy lives. They had happy memories. Most of them just seemed content with their lot in life, despite having faced different challenges.
When this began to dawn on me, I realised that it would be cruel for me to wish that these people become JW's. Why would I want anyone to become part of the misery that I was experiencing? I had seen how the WTS could take people who were previously happy-go-lucky folk (like I was), and do something to them. Turn them into paranoid, negative, depressing individuals.
It wasn't long after that, that I realised I should leave the org.
Anyone else feel this way?
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It's another world up there!
Aberdeen = Oberdeen.
It's a doft!
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So what do you know?
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Which is your favourite single malt Scotch Whisky, and why?
by lifelong humanist inas a true scot, i'm deeply passionate about most things scottish, any possibly one of our small nation's most successful export is my main favourite - our single malt whisky heritage.. i'm writing this while savouring a 12 year old highland park - distilled in the orkney islands, the most northerly distillery in scotland.
it is one of my favourites - it was my late father's favourite tipple.
yet, only 500m from my house is scotlands oldest legal whisky distillery - glenturret, in crieff.
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I drank a bottle of Glenmorangie the day that Heart of Midlothian FC won the Scottish Cup in 1998 against Rangers.
It has always evoked happy memories & is still one of the best whiskeys.
Every new year I still 1st foot my old man with a bottle of the stuff.
Happy, happy days.
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Did You Start "Losing It" As A Witness?
by minimus inwere you emotionally or mentally unbalanced at any time while you were a jehovah's witness?.
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I always refer to the fact that in normal society I was a succesful young man who should have had the world at his feet (around 2002/03). In reality, as a JW I was a paranoid, insecure, pessemistic, depressing individual. I rmember on more than one occasion going into meltdown. The cause? Who knows. But, I did feel completely under pressure as a JW ministerial servant/pioneer.
When I had my 1st little baby daughter I was forced to take note of my mental stability.
I knew that I had to leave this religion. Not just for me now, but for my kids. I considered others now.
I left. It hasn't been easy. Yet I considered suicide as a way out when I was in the religion.
I'm happy I gained the courage & left.
I really could have been dead*.
*One night I was so miserable, I drank a litre of whiskey. I must have downed my last at around 11.20pm. I had to get up for work at 4.30am. I got up & managed to trace the line of a familiar tree on a stretch of road where I was able to do 60mph in my car. I considered just driving off the road & ending it all that day. I was a young man who had a lovely wife & 2 little healthy children. I was so overtaken by my misery in that religion.
I just had to leave. For my own sanity & the future of my kids.
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What Things Were YOU Counseled For?
by minimus inelders love to counsel people.
it feeds their ego.
over the years, you must've been counseled on different things.. when i was almost of age to become a ms, an elder counseled me for my "lack of seriousness".
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At one time I was counselled for being 'too happy'. On the platform, mucking around at ministry arrangements, laughing at the back of the hall etc, etc.
Athough I was fairly miserable having to be a JW, I adapted and tried to make the most of it until I left. When the above was mentioned to me I realised I was in the wrong place altogether.
I really do feel that JW's (generally) are a right miserable bunch. Negative, depressing individuals. They walk around with the weight of the world on their shoulders.
No thanks!
Life is good, live it.
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The Watchtower hates Scotsmen
by kurtbethel inbecause i have carefully looked over every picture and representation i can find of the so called paradise earth published in the last 30 years.
there are people in all sorts of clothing from many cultures, american casual, african, asian, hispanic, and others.. but i have not seen a single image that shows you kilt wearers will make it into the new systemtm!.
does that make you so angry that your sporran stands on edge?.
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Women love us men in kilts.
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I went to my 1st JW 'gathering' in 3 years
by jambon1 inthe negative outlook of the jehovahs witnesses made me leave the religion.
i was a young man (you can read my previous experiences) who was consumed by negativity.
it made me want to kill myself at one point.. i went to a gathering with my wife recently & i have to say that they are just as negative as i was, but worse.. consumed with depressing tales of misery, depression & general pessimism.. in no way would i be attracted to those people.
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The negative outlook of the jehovahs witnesses made me leave the religion. I was a young man (you can read my previous experiences) who was consumed by negativity. It made me want to kill myself at one point.
I went to a gathering with my wife recently & I have to say that they are just as negative as I was, but worse.
Consumed with depressing tales of misery, depression & general pessimism.
In no way would I be attracted to those people. In no way would I want to be a part of their negative mindset.
It took me 5 years to leave all of that behind. Nothing has changed.
It makes me sad to think that so many people wasted their lives in that religion.
Life is good. You gotta live it!
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Circuit & District Overseers That Made An Impact
by minimus inwe have a lot of new ones on this site as well as some who have been here for years----i know this subject has been brought up before, but were there any memorable cos or dos that you can recall?.
co arnie scneider was my last co when i was an elder.
he was a very sweet man..
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Ian Shanks was someone who made me re-believe the truth at a time when I was thoroughly toiling to hang on to the religion. Looking back, he was a proper society man who had a quiet ruthless streak (seen in my ministerial servant capacity & not obvious to many others). At the time I liked him.
I just can't see past the idea that all CO's/DO's are real society men who are in a sort of JW bubble. Maybe it''s nice for them but when all things come to pass and they are possibly let down by the WTS or their beliefs then we shall see the making of the man.
I'd rather live in the real world & be properly equiped to deal with lifes inevitablities.
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