Posts by jambon1

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It happens tonight...

by IronHill in

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we have been told that the announcement that "we are no longer of the jehovah's witnesses" will happen at the meeting this evening.

so i will be celebrating tonight!

lol.... in all seriousness, it seems like any other friday, but inside i feel like this is a big step!

jambon1

Do everything that you can not to play by their rules.

Enjoy your freedom.

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Were you told to avoid telling HH's that they would be killed unless they listened?

by highdose in

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one of the many things as a child growing up as a jw that i never understood was this: a elderette told me her husband would be going to see the non jw freind of one of their sons.

it seems that the freind had directly challenged the jw son and asked " are you telling me that if i don't become a jw that god will kill me?".

the son hadn't known what to say to this, bearing in mind of course that the jw belief is "yes you will die at armargeddon if you don't become a jw".

jambon1

HD - I know. They don't dare venture into the distasteful parts of the message. Telling people that god will kill them is extreemly offensive.

As I said, they know it.

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JW PEDOPHILE SENTENCED TO 40 YEARS

by Mary in

another sick jw is finally brought to justice (no thanks to god's chosen ones) after raping and molesting children for four frigging decades.

as per the article below, obviously one of his victims told the elders that they had been molested and obviously the elders did nothing about it.

'sorry, but did you have another eye witness to brother cockerill raping you?

If god's spirit can take action to inspire someone to post an envelope through some f-wit pioneers door because his car is broken then why can the same spirit not take action to save all the victims of abuse in his organisation?

Answers on a postcard.

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Were you told to avoid telling HH's that they would be killed unless they listened?

by highdose in

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friends

one of the many things as a child growing up as a jw that i never understood was this: a elderette told me her husband would be going to see the non jw freind of one of their sons.

it seems that the freind had directly challenged the jw son and asked " are you telling me that if i don't become a jw that god will kill me?".

the son hadn't known what to say to this, bearing in mind of course that the jw belief is "yes you will die at armargeddon if you don't become a jw".

jambon1

Jehovah's Witnesses have the most disturbing, distasteful & repulsive set of beliefs on the planet.

We know it. They know it. Why would they want to get into the nitty gritty of it?

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Most Livable Cities in the World - is Yours on the List?

by sammielee24 in

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in case the olympics weren't drawing enough attention to city of vancouver, this year's economist intelligence unit's list of the world's most livable cities has declared the canadian city the number one urban area in which to settle down.. if you are surprised, well, you shouldn't be, due to the fact that vancouver is a consistent high achiever in these polls.

what is it about the city that makes it so great?

according to the economist's gulliver blog, canada and australia do exceptionally well in the eiu rankings due to their perfect scores for health care and education.. some of the other rankings might be more surprising, however - for example, what does one make of the fact that detroit (40th) beats both london (54th) and new york (56th)?.

jambon1

Scotlands capital city..............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WymV2Bah1Rk

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As a Witness were you allowed to eat Easter eggs AFTER Easter and only if smashed up first??

by Witness 007 in

my favourite was a humpty dumpty full of mm's....but we could only buy them after easter and if we broke them up....my mothers orders.....tonnes of half price eggs after easter..

jambon1

It made sense to me to get them after easter and save money. After all, you can buy chocolate any time.

From am uber-JW point of view it always amazed me how many people would BRAG about getting them piled in after easter.

I mean, doesn't it say 'quit TOUCHING the unclean thing'.

Hypocritical barstards.

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Was You a Bethelite, Elder,CO, DO, GB, Publisher, Missionary,Ministerial Servant or Pioneer class?????

by Scott77 in

when still in the watchtower, i used to be an assistant ministerial servant.

true, there is no such title but its there unofficially for those one step to being a ministerial servant.

been with it for about three years.

jambon1

I was a pioneer & m/s.

I took my responsibilities seriously & felt like I could eventually make a differance.

How many people have said this & how wrong they we

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Most Livable Cities in the World - is Yours on the List?

by sammielee24 in

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friends

in case the olympics weren't drawing enough attention to city of vancouver, this year's economist intelligence unit's list of the world's most livable cities has declared the canadian city the number one urban area in which to settle down.. if you are surprised, well, you shouldn't be, due to the fact that vancouver is a consistent high achiever in these polls.

what is it about the city that makes it so great?

according to the economist's gulliver blog, canada and australia do exceptionally well in the eiu rankings due to their perfect scores for health care and education.. some of the other rankings might be more surprising, however - for example, what does one make of the fact that detroit (40th) beats both london (54th) and new york (56th)?.

jambon1

Edinburgh is an absolutely stunning city & I love being born & bred here.

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The effect of this religion on my children & the action I had to take - Part I

by jambon1 in

i have been meaning to tell this story for some time now.

i feel that i would like to share it so that it may serve as a warning to anyone who thinks that the jw religion does not have a negative effect on children.. i have been out of the religion for 4 years now.

i wasn't brought up in the organisation.

jambon1

Hi again

Thanks for the input.

It may be a couple of days before I get to write part II as I am extreemly busy this week & it seems to take me nearly an hour to put it together in a way that makes sense. Please bear with me. I will post it on a seperate thread.

Regards,

J

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The effect of this religion on my children & the action I had to take - Part I

by jambon1 in

i have been meaning to tell this story for some time now.

i feel that i would like to share it so that it may serve as a warning to anyone who thinks that the jw religion does not have a negative effect on children.. i have been out of the religion for 4 years now.

i wasn't brought up in the organisation.

jambon1

I have been meaning to tell this story for some time now. I feel that I would like to share it so that it may serve as a warning to anyone who thinks that the JW religion does not have a negative effect on children.

I have been out of the religion for 4 years now. I wasn't brought up in the organisation. At the point I left only my wife & I and our 2 little children were active JW's. You can search my post history to see the varying degrees of bitterness that I have felt toward the JW religion. I left completely disillusioned with the whole thing. Badly treated & hurt by the actions of many witnesses. At the same time I had a few good friends who I still care for & love.

I left the organisation because I felt that what I was taught as a bible study ten years previously (I was 18 when my wife & I studied) was not what was practised in the religion. I felt a gross lack of love. I saw very angry & frustrated individuals in many congregations. I saw families that were a mess. But mainly, I was averse to believing & practicing some of the things that I was introduced to AFTER I became a baptised JW. I knew the day that I bacame a parent that I couldn't withold medical treatment from my kids if required to do so. I knew that I would rather cut my right arm off than SHUN my flesh & blood baby girl if she transgressed this religion as an adult. I hated having to look down on non witnesses & believe that their lifestyle sentenced them to death at the hands of a bloodthirsty god of 'love'.

As I progressed as a pioneer & ministerial servant, I saw a side of this religion that disturbed me greatly. My disbelief in god grew day by day. My disgust at what I was supposed to believe & teach my children who were very young just escalated. I became depressed & even suicidal.

One day in January 2006 I walked out of our kingdom hall & I knew I was never, ever going to return. It sounds pathetic but it was one of the bravest moments of my life. If I hadn't taken that action back then, I could very well still have been a part of the organisation today. I had attempted to leave before but couldn't do it. This was my time now. I believe my action back in January 06 saved, at the very least my sanity, but very possibly my life.

When I put it to my wife, she was naturally upset. Things were hard in our family for many months.

As time passed, I became more & more opossed to the whole thing. I hated the fact that my children were being infected with this dispicable belief system. A set of beliefs which teach young children that their whole world, including non-JW relatives, schoolmates etc is soon going to be destroyed by god because they are evil, wicked people. I was becoming more & more aware that what JW's are prepared to teach children, MY children, is wholly inappropriate.

I reasoned that if this religion could take me, a happy go lucky 17 year old & turn me into a paranoid, depressed, anxious wreck, then what could they do to my children by means of this gradual drip, drip, drip that happens as you soak in their words & phrases? Their sectarian beliefs.

You see, I was lucky to have been raised in a loving, happy family. I grew very much closer to my non-JW parents after I left the org. I began to understand just what an effect my being a witness had on them. I began to respect my parents as I matured as a person & related to all that they carried out & went through to raise myself & my sister. I was enjoying happy times with them again. Birthdays, new year (which in Scotland is a big thing), mothers/fathers day. My respect for my parents, despite any mistakes they made when raising us, was completely restored. I was having a relationship with them again which had been 'put on hold' during my ten years as a JW. It was alll good.

Except my kids were still being raised as witnesses by my wife whom I love deeply. My daughter (aged 8) who is very, very bright was being drip fed this illness every single week. I could gradually see that it was having an effect on her. Here was me, the father she loves & respects being a part of celebrations that she is being taught are wicked & deserving of death (yes, celebrating my fathers 60th birthday really is viewed as being worthy of death!). I didn't realise it at the time but my daughters head was a mess. One day, last year, it all came to a head.

What I heard from my daughters lips convinced me that action needed to be taken. She came to be in a state of severe agitation that day. She was delirious. What I saw & heard from her made me cry & weep like a helpless little boy once she had fallen asleep that night. The whole sorry sitiuation is a sad indictment on the JW religion.

I shall tell part II of the story very soon.

J