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  Everything About Being An Elder is Weird (my misc rambling memories of being an elder)

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  for any brother who is a jehovah's witness, the goal is put before them to reach out for the privilege of being an elder.

  i can only speak for myself, but being born into the religion, i wanted to be an elder since i was 5. i would have much rather wanted to be a doctor or engineer, but those are the breaks..... i'll skip the part about what it takes to reach out, all the crap you have to put up with as a ministerial servant to get appointed, and go straight to the reality.. i know many elders who sincerely just wanted to be shepherds.

  i did want the spotlight.

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  jambon1

  Although only having been a MS, I can relate to some of what you mentioned. My initial good intentions were totally sapped by the internal politics, arse licking etc that goes on among the appointed men. Laterly I attended CO/MS/elders meetings & kingdom ministry schools for MS's. I was appalled by the sort of stuff that was discussed. It made me see how utterly controlled we all were from the appointed men to the rank & file witnesses. The WTS 'methods' were totally against everything I stood for. One month I gave a part on a kingdom ministry school, the next month I walked out of my congregation & never returned.

  Living as a JW wasn't ever for me. Getting to see the inner workings just made me realise it.
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  November 15 Watchtower (Study Edition) - discourages showing affection to your spouse

  by CrazyBlonde in

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  2. friends

  another gem from the same edition - article to be studied december 28 - january 3 (which most will miss lol coz of summer vacation) entitled "what do your prayers say about you?

  " page 6 para 19 reads:.

  19 when we are being represented in public prayer, we need to display reverential "fear of god.

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  jambon1

  I suppose this rules out the elders having a sly 'ham shank' under the table during a judicial comitee as they enquire about another persons sexual habits?

  What an absolute crock of bullshit.

  Really.
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  Why do JW's pussyfoot around saying what Armegeddon really is?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw's make armegeddon sound so sterile with statements like:.

  "when god brings an end to this old system.

  " "when jehovah.

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  jambon1

  My wife does this. When I go into the details of what they believe, and why I couldn't continue to believe it she becomes very uncomfortable.
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  Besty Unplugged - My Life Story Part VII

  by besty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  << part vi.

  part vii not the end or the beginning.

  as mentioned previously i was starting to travel more frequently to the us on business, specifically los angeles.

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  jambon1

  Very good mate.

  Really enjoyed your story. I hope to do the same myself one day but at the moment I would struggle to write a coherant, logically developed peice as my mind gets filled with so much stuff as I begin to write.

  But your story was facinating & also heartbreaking too.

  The similarities in the way people are viewed/treated by JW's is alarming, predictable but also awful.

  Regards

  J
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  Do you have many friends since leaving the bOrg?

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't have many in my physical sphere.

  but the ones i have are good ones.

  of course we share no 'history', since i never had a 'worldly' friend until i left at 48.. in my cyberworld [and some would argue the credence of that] i have found many fine souls with which to commiserate, share, grow.

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  jambon1

  I have always been naturally outgoing and made a number of friends when I was a JW.

  Toward the end though, I became disillusioned with most of my JW friendships apart from a few which I still have to this day.

  The thing I hated was having to be in peoples company. People that I really didn't like. Nasty people. Selfish people. Weird people. I absolutely hated being forced to spend time with them at meetings etc.

  Now, I size people up & make my choices regarding friendships. I spent 10 years of my life surrounded by assholes & feeling depressed because of it.

  Life is too short to be surrounded by assholes.

  I like my friendships now. Worldly people are loving & kind & give you pretty much unconditional love.

  A witness wouldn't give you the steam of their pish unless it somehow benefited them.

  Life is good now.
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  Did a cat commit sin so that all the pussies die? Dog sin? Hippo sin? Elephant sin?

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  if romans 5:12 is correct then what started the ball rolling in the animal kingdom?.

  why do they die?

  did a pussy eat a peice of forbiden cat meal?.

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  jambon1

  If Romans 5:12 is correct then what started the ball rolling in the animal kingdom?

  Why do they die? Did a pussy eat a peice of forbiden cat meal?

  What about all the little mice? A peice of cheese was consumed signifying mousy disobedience so now all the little mouses die?

  I want answers!
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  Another 1975 Thread (Scans of Oct 15, 1969 WT)

  by brinjen in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  probably been posted before, but thought i'd scan it in and post it anyway.

  left the book edges in the scan to show it came from the volumes and is an authentic scan.. .

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  jambon1

  So who was pulling whos pisser then?

  Jehovah? Jesus? The FDS? The overzealous rank & file?

  I'm confused.
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  Have you Overcome Guilt & Fear Since Exiting Jehovah's Witnesses ?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  minimus had a great thread recently asking if any who were witnesses felt guilt as a jehovah's witness.

  thought i would build on that a little dealing with how you have moved on after being a jehovah's witness ?.

  one definition of guilt in the american heritage dictionary is : " self-reproach for supposed inadequacy or wrongdoing ".

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  jambon1

  One of the things that got to me when I was a JW was the constant feeling of guilt over this thought or that word I said or what I wasn't accomplishing etc, etc.

  When I left 3 years ago I was determined not to feel guilt. Guilt is only a good thing for people to feel who are doing bad, bad shit.

  I have felt no guilt about leaving the religion behind, nor have I felt any guilt for my current lifestyle which I enjoy very much & which does no harm to anyone.
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  2010 Special Assemby Day program: "The Time Left Is Reduced"

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the time left always seems to be reduced but it never runs out.. here is the program for the 2010 special assembly day.

  the time left is reduced.

  (1 corinthians 7:29).

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  Do they not get embarrassed about the whole time thing?
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  The logistics of dealing with over 6 billion unburied corpses

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does this ever cross the mind of your average jw?.

  can you even begin to imagine what that would look like or even smell like?.

  what about the effect of these scenes on the mind of children, even adults?.

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  jambon1

  Does this ever cross the mind of your average JW?

  Can you even begin to imagine what that would look like or even smell like?

  What about the effect of these scenes on the mind of children, even adults?

  It seems to me that jehovahs witnesses either have a hideous lust for destruction or they just bury their head in the sand regarding the actual logistics of an earthwide holocaust.

  Fools.