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  Did You Stay In Because of the Fear?

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  growing up amongst jws, i saw the core beliefs as a threat.

  be a jw, or die horribly.

  but no one i knew ever admitted this, it was all about 'loving jehovah'.

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  penny2

  myababes, welcome to JWD. I also stayed in for a while out of fear of disappointing my family.
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  Does paradise still seem attractive to you?

  by Hiddenwindow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you think paradise, as depicted by the watchtower, an everlasting life praising jehovah and playing with what we now know as wild animals, not to mention cultivating a piece of land, is really a desirable place?

  bear in mind that there is no reference to science and that personal goals are non-existent..

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  penny2

  Who wouldn't want to live in a paradise? The thing is, once you find out it's a lie.... that takes the shine off. I want to puke everytime I see those bland, unrealistic pictures.

  I'll settle for my backyard any day. Even though we have water restrictions and my lawn is not looking its best.
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  any former elders have an answer for me?

  by helricha in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was df'd for living with/having sex with my boyfriend for 3 years and then not ending the relationship and moving out within the week between the first meeting of confession and the second meeting where they tell me what their decision was.

  i did move out 3 months later with the intent of being reinstated over a period of time.

  well i couldn't cut off the relationship with my bf even though i did move out, so i married him after a year and then 2 weeks after that i slept with someone else.

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  penny2

  I know firsthand what the feeling of guilt can do to you. You start thinking in circles, lose sleep and the problem gets bigger and bigger in our mind. This can sometimes cause our thinking to go astray and lead to depression or anxiety.

  You have nothing to lose by setting it aside for now. In the whole scheme of things, does it matter whether you speak to the elders now or in six months? In the meantime you can still go to meetings if you wish.

  As they always say, Jehovah can read your heart. As a Jehovah's Witness, that's what counts.

  While you are setting it aside, take time out to enjoy yourself with your husband - that may help you get your joy in life back!

  penny
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  any former elders have an answer for me?

  by helricha in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was df'd for living with/having sex with my boyfriend for 3 years and then not ending the relationship and moving out within the week between the first meeting of confession and the second meeting where they tell me what their decision was.

  i did move out 3 months later with the intent of being reinstated over a period of time.

  well i couldn't cut off the relationship with my bf even though i did move out, so i married him after a year and then 2 weeks after that i slept with someone else.

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  penny2

  I know I'm a horrible person

  Just because you made some mistakes - doesn't mean you are a horrible person. If you look in the bible - look at all the things King David did. And you haven't arranged for someone to be killed to cover up your mistakes.

  You made some decisions which you regret. There must have been a reason why you made those decisions at the time. You shouldn't have to pay for that years after.
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  any former elders have an answer for me?

  by helricha in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was df'd for living with/having sex with my boyfriend for 3 years and then not ending the relationship and moving out within the week between the first meeting of confession and the second meeting where they tell me what their decision was.

  i did move out 3 months later with the intent of being reinstated over a period of time.

  well i couldn't cut off the relationship with my bf even though i did move out, so i married him after a year and then 2 weeks after that i slept with someone else.

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  penny2

  Why don't you just let things settle before you do anything. Then once they settle, you can make some plans.

  To answer your original questions, yes, the elders won't be happy until you've confessed everything. You will feel guilty if you don't confess everything. They will expect you to tell your husband.

  I have heard this story more than a few times from new ppl

  worldtraveller, you'll see this story a lot because it happens a lot. She's just human.

  penny2
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  Has WTS abandoned "house to house" ministry?

  by ozziepost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many years ago now i remember hearing harold king sing the song he had composed whilst incarcerated for his beliefs in china; it was called "house to house".. nowadays it doesn't seem as though it's in favor.

  notice its own description of its ministry which the wts has placed on its website:.

  jehovah's witnesses are probably best known for their person-to-person ministry.

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  penny2

  Judging by family participation, door to door work is very much in vogue in South Oz at the moment. And you'll never catch them going to a cafe, either.
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  Idea on what we can do with all our old meeting clothes....

  by avishai in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they used to have a donation place where i live that gave low income women business attire for job interviews, why they did'nt have one for men i dunno.

  they're no longer around, but i'd like to start a non-profit w/ clothes, etc.

  for low income, homeless etc.

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  those jw ladies scooped em up like it was a day after valentine's candy sale

  Magick, that was funny. Hope you've bought a whole new wardrobe of clothes since. And not a long skirt in sight. It's funny, dresses are in fashion this year and I don't want to go near them.
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  Is this a breach of Christian Neutrality?

  by jefferywhat in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is an oldie but a goodie, and it begs a question.

  http://www.aph.gov.au/hansard/joint/commttee/j2444.pdf .

  for any witnesses in australia, we would be used to the little guy with the canadian accent brought over here by the society to sort out the post war issues in aus bethel, we were selling and swapping stuff with the army, i actually think one of the bethel boys get shot by mistake.

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  penny2

  Yes, I did. Did you also notice the WTS representative's opening words:

  I would like to express appreciation for coming before the committee. Most religions espouse principles of tolerance and morality and thus the free practice of religion can promote stability within a community.

  What's ironic is the lack of tolerance shown by JWs towards those who wish to leave. No "free practice of religion" for them. And yes, this policy promotes instability in families.
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  Is this a breach of Christian Neutrality?

  by jefferywhat in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is an oldie but a goodie, and it begs a question.

  http://www.aph.gov.au/hansard/joint/commttee/j2444.pdf .

  for any witnesses in australia, we would be used to the little guy with the canadian accent brought over here by the society to sort out the post war issues in aus bethel, we were selling and swapping stuff with the army, i actually think one of the bethel boys get shot by mistake.

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  penny2

  jefferywhat, welcome to JWD. That was interesting reading.

  http://www.aph.gov.au/hansard/joint/commttee/j2444.pdf

  I haven't seen this before - the document is a transcript of a government enquiry into "Australia's efforts to promote and protect freedom of religion and belief."

  The WTS representatives highlighted two examples of "religious discrimination" in Australia - laws permitting blood transfusions to be administered to minors without parental consent and the way adoption laws are applied to JWs. I guess they are both seasoned speakers so put their point of view across effectively.

  To answer your question, I guess this wouldn't violate their rules on neutrality - note a comment in the WT of 15 March 1986:

  Lesson for Us: Like the Jews of Esther’s day, Jehovah’s Witnesses properly appeal to governments and courts for protection from enemies.
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  More Groupthink

  by rose petal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  escalating commitment - tendency to continue with a previously chosen course of action, even when feedback suggests that it is failing.. .

  keeps continuing because decision makers:.

  rationalise negative feedback.

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  penny2

  Escalating commitment - tendency to continue with a previously chosen course of action, even when feedback suggests that it is failing

  Reminds me of field service. You never meet anyone home - so maybe you should do more.