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  "its been said...As It Were..."

  by xjwms in

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  thats funny.

  everything ended in "as it were".

  where i used to attend.

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  Arthur

  Oh, I just thought of another one:

  Here's another trite phrase that they keep recycling in every talk about materialism:

  "Yes, brothers, we often see bumper stickers that say 'he who dies with the most toys wins' ".

  Here's another verbal turd they use:

  "You see that worldly people have a nice big house and a motor home in the driveway, but they are never home because they are always gone working to pay for it."

  Sometimes, I just wanted so badly to stand up with a bull horn and say: "Please, get some new material ! Jerry Seinfeld doesn't even recycle his one liners as much as you guys do ! "
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  "its been said...As It Were..."

  by xjwms in

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  thats funny.

  everything ended in "as it were".

  where i used to attend.

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  Arthur

  Here's another vacuous gem:

  "And we can see from what's happening in the news today . . . . "
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  "its been said...As It Were..."

  by xjwms in

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  thats funny.

  everything ended in "as it were".

  where i used to attend.

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  Arthur

  Okay, I see what the thread is about.

  You know what really used to annoy me? It seemed like every other comment started with the words: "Well, the paragraph brings out . . . "

  Another one was during interviews at assemblies. It seemed like everytime an interviewee started their monologue, they started it with: "Well, brother Bobblehead, because of my love for Jehovah . . . . "
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  And you thought Mel Gibson was anti-semitic

  by beautifulisfree in

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  in 1933 while the rank and file were being persecuted right along side the jews this is what the society said:.

  as for the declaration and an accompanying letter sent to adolf hitler personally, they were nothing short of self-serving statements which attempted to ingratiate jehovah's witnesses with the nazis.

  under a sub-section entitled "jews," the declaration reads: it is falsely charged by our enemies that we have received financial support for our work from the jews.

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  Arthur

  Just curious, where did you get this information from? Could you provide a link?
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  "its been said...As It Were..."

  by xjwms in

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  thats funny.

  everything ended in "as it were".

  where i used to attend.

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  Arthur

  Hi Xjwms,

  Just curious, what's the point of this thread. What would you like us to write in response?
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  God's Organization? (for the JW Lurkers)

  by KW13 in

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  luke 21:8 - he replied: "watch out that you are not deceived.

  for many will come in my name, claiming, 'i am he,' and, 'the time is near.

  ' do not follow them.. this scripture clearly says those claiming to be christ, warning of the end approaching and that we shouldn't follow them.

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  Arthur

  This is a really good post KW13. You did raise very logical points.

  This is indeed a logical, rational argument. And that is precisely why it doesn't get through to the average JW. They do not respond to logic and rationality.

  One cannot underestimate the power that the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" doctrine has over the JWs. The "Faithful and Discreet Slave" can simply wipe away all of these scriptural arguments with a wave of the hand. Why? Because they are the "Faithful Slave". The "Faithful Slave" can interpret scriptures any way that they please. They can create any doctrine or ruling that they want, and can always play "scriptural hop-scotch" to prove their point. Anyone who raises an objection or disagrees, is marked by the elders, or purged from the congregation.

  Anyone who believes that a committee of men in Brooklyn have sole Biblical interpretation powers, and have the right to enforce their own ideas, and consciences over millions of people are not operating out of a logical, rational mindset. They are operating out of indoctrination, ideology, and religious zealotry.
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  What Would You Tell A JW That Believes That Terrorism Means "The End"?

  by minimus in

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  i can only picture what we can expect to hear from our witness family.....any thoughts?

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  Forget about Genghis Khan......let's get back to how a Witness will respond. Saying this has happened before won't cut it.

  If explaining how this has happened before won't cut it, then I'm afraid nothing will.
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  Is It Possible For The Jehovah's Witness Organization to Disbandon?

  by perthwogboy in

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  is it possible for the jehovah's witness organization to disbandon?

  as an ex jw, i can only live in hope!

  what are your thought's and opinions on this matter?

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  Arthur

  I wrote about this in a previous thread. I actually have a very different opinion on this matter. I don't think that the JW religion will ever implode or disband. Here's why: a huge percentage of JWs are absolutely and totally committed to their ideology. This organization is not just a corporate entity that owns property, buildings, and printing presses. This is an organization that is made up of millions of deeply indoctrinated zealots.

  Even if the Watchtower corporations were to go bankrupt, or close shop, there would be no limit to the dedicated members who would just set up a new corporation. So, even if the Watchtower society were sued into oblivion; JWs would just set up a new corporate entity under a new name such as Watchtower Bible Society, or Watchtower Inc., or something else.

  As far as declining membership and the number of ex-JWs is concerned, I actually believe that the more ex-JWs there are, the more this will galvanize devout JWs. Obviously, the more ex-JWs there are, the more opposition they will face to their preaching work. Opposition to JWs is the fuel that drives this machine. So, even if the Watchtower Society's corporate structure were to get hammered by lawsuits, this would only feed into the persecution complex that JWs have.

  I think the more opposition this kind of group gets, the more emboldened they become. As long as there are humans on earth; there will always be totalitarian pseudo-Christian cults which attract people through demagoguery. JWs just happen to be one of those groups.
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  Was it frowned on to plan vacation during the Circuit Overseers visit?

  by truthseeker in

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  i have noticed in my hall, and others, that to plan a vacation or to be away during any of the upcoming co's visits was frowned upon.

  it was said you weren't being responsible and were disregarding the counsel to make that a week of "special activity.".

  sometimes, it is not know when a co will next visit.

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  Arthur

  I think that JWs view going on vacation during a C.O. as worse than commiting fornication.
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  Reveal something interesting that we didn't know about you

  by JH in

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  ok, i'll start with myself.

  i'm a nut job, hey i bet you never knew that !!!

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  Arthur

  My favorite groups are: Dream Theater, Luscious Jackson, and Cold Play.

  My favorite movies are: The Usual Suspects, Goodfellas, The Game, and The Village