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  JW obsession with dates, etc

  by praiseband in

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  i'm posting this not as a criticism, but as a perspective from a non-jw.

  most christians would be sooooo boggled by the complete obsession with historical dates that jw's can argue back and forth about for ever it seems!

  i'm not voicing an opinion here about whether there is merit to it or not.

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  Arthur

  Well, to tell you the truth praiseband, I found the obsession with dates to be rather odd even when I was a Witness. It's odd because many JWs seem to put more esteem into knowing many facts, figures, and Bible trivia than they do into becomming a truly spiritual person (kind, compassionate, loving, generous)

  I can tell you from personal experience that many JWs (if not most) would be offended if a Witness was spending time volunteering at homeless shelters, orphanages, or organizations like the Red Cross. A person could not have a compassionate bone in their body, but as long as they can spit out all kinds of dates, years of reins, birth years, facts on lineage, and other trivia, they are considered a "spiritual person". I have gotten to know many other religious people of various faiths, and none of them seem to hold this biazarre obsession with dates. I'm sure they're out there, but I haven't seen too many.
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  Distric Convention

  by lost_light06 in

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  so i went to the dc recently.

  excuse me while i puke.

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  I was in New York Yankee Stadium and Polo Grounds in 1958. I was 14. It sucked green tomatoes. Yup! 9 am till 9 pm, 8 days of hell. I'd rather be dead than go through that again. The seats were like rocks and we sat out in the sun every day all day.

  Wow, I used to complain because we had to sit in the sun from 9am to 4pm for only four days at Jack Murphy Stadium. You guys were troopers back then.
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  crazy christians see bad news as good news, seem familiar?

  by drew sagan in

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  don't know if anybody put this up here yet or not.

  i caught this link to harpers from boingboing.net, has some comments posted from a bunch of 'rapture ready' chrisians online.

  sounds familiar to what i've seen from another crazy sect of christianity.... .

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  I specifically remember a particular comment that a brother made at a Watchtower study. This was right after Hurricane Katrina had happened. He commented that when "we" (JWs) see things such as this happen, it is actually "good news for us, because we know that our deliverence is near". I personally would have loved to take him down to New Orleans and dumped him their with no food, no water, in knee-deep sewer-water and see how wonderful it was for him then.
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  Check Out These Horrible Album Covers!

  by Arthur in

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  i recently stumbled upon a really great website.

  it is a gallery of the worst album covers ever made.

  some of them are really bizarre.

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  Arthur

  Okay everybody, sorry about the screw-up. Several people told me what I did wrong. Hopefully, I have it figured out. Let me try it again. Here it goes:
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  Check Out These Horrible Album Covers!

  by Arthur in

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  i recently stumbled upon a really great website.

  it is a gallery of the worst album covers ever made.

  some of them are really bizarre.

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  Arthur

  HI Arthur,

  All I see are red 'X's.

  That's odd. I had logged off, gone to other sites, and then came back to the site. All of the pictures are displayed when I look at it. I don't know why you can't see them.

  Well anyway, if anybody else can't see them, you can just go straight to the web-link, which has the entire gallery.
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  Check Out These Horrible Album Covers!

  by Arthur in

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  i recently stumbled upon a really great website.

  it is a gallery of the worst album covers ever made.

  some of them are really bizarre.

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  Hi everybody. I recently stumbled upon a really great website. It is a gallery of the worst album covers ever made. Some of them are really bizarre. Some are downright hilarious. I have posted a few of the album covers that I thought were the funniest. I have posted a link to the website so that you can view all of the gallery.

  http://heavy.com
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  Were you like me, or was I different?

  by JH in

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  i remember going to meetings at the hall, and when the meeting was over, i wanted to leave right away, and not see a jw t'il the next meeting.. i thought of this thread because i see so many witnesses having lunch together after meetings and many seem to always want to be together even when the meetings are over.. i never did like this closed circle of jw's.

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  I had to stand around and chat with people I didn't want to talk to, like some wierd, freaky cocktail party without drinks!

  This is where a flask comes in handy.
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  Courage

  by Wordly Andre in

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  i've read posts from many of you on this board, some still have to hide the fact that they have left the org, some have really hard time with family and people who were friends.

  i was not baptized, i never believed in the truth and fought my parents till i left home at 17. i think it was difficult for me, but i didn't have a period of guilt or fear of being destroyed by jehovah, instead i felt like the whole world was open to me, no more hiding, can finally be myself.. i know that a lot of people here fought with leaving and still do, its a huge emotional mess, i think it took tremendous courage for many of you to even get here, to this website.

  i just wanted to say to all of you good luck and welcome to the rest of your life.

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  Thank you for that Worldly Andre,

  Yes, it really is a difficult emotional "roller-coaster" that many of us go through. Just last night, I was out with some friends and by chance, I happened to meet a woman who used to be a Witness. She said she was DFd when she was a teenager. I don't know how old she was, but I'm guessing she is now in her mid to late thirties. After all of this time, she said she still has many emotional hang-ups. Even though she doesn't believe that it was the "truth", she still has those phobias of being destroyed at Armageddon. It's very sad to see.

  I always tell people to establish an emotional support system; and supportive, caring friends. For those who have just left the org, this can sometimes seem impossible, because everyone that they ever knew is in the org. But the internet is a great resource for finding support groups as well as appropriate counselors.

  I think that this site is a great starting point.
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  What "Discipline" Did You Recieve While A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  were you "disciplined" by the elders (or jehovah god) for anything while in the "truth"??

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  Arthur

  Hey Stealth,

  Did you ever get counseled for wearing your diaper up on the platform?
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  How did you............

  by lola28 in

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  find jwd?

  i found this website while i was looking for the company that you can get service stuff from, i believed it was the "truth" and was a pioneer at the time, not a pioneer anymore.

  so how did you get here and what has changed in your life since you found this place?.

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  Arthur

  I found it as a link on the website: http://freeminds.org