Posts by insearchoftruth

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How do I ask about or introduce past WT literature in a discussion

by insearchoftruth in

my wife is 'studying' with a jw sister and the sisters husband is a po who is going to come over next week to meet me and answer some of my questions and concerns.

they are also supposed to be getting me a copy of the proclaimers book so i can read about the history of the org, in addition to some other publications.. i know that the proclaimers book tells a very slanted story about the jws, but it also refers to a lot of other jw publications, those of old that are not looked at or even in many cases known about by current jws.. was wondering how i go about bringing the past publications into our conversations, if i produce a scan of one, i am sure that would raise a signal, would the only way be to ask about getting early information by following a list of references and continually asking for the reference???.

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insearchoftruth

My wife is 'studying' with a JW sister and the sisters husband is a PO who is going to come over next week to meet me and answer some of my questions and concerns. They are also supposed to be getting me a copy of the Proclaimers book so I can read about the history of the org, in addition to some other publications.

I know that the Proclaimers book tells a very slanted story about the JWs, but it also refers to a lot of other JW publications, those of old that are not looked at or even in many cases known about by current jws.

Was wondering how I go about bringing the past publications into our conversations, if I produce a scan of one, I am sure that would raise a signal, would the only way be to ask about getting early information by following a list of references and continually asking for the reference???

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My last thread

by OnTheWayOut in

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friends

i truly don't feel like onthewayout anymore.

on jws or whichever board takes the .

lead, i am "jerry in chicago.

insearchoftruth

Am so glad to have you over at the other sites I have been looking for information from!!

If I am in the Chicago area, would love to look you up...but Virginia, a bit too far for now!!

Thanks for your assistance and kindness!

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Jobs in the new system

by cameo-d in

what do you think you will be doing for work in the new system and how will you get paid for it?.

since there will be no more welfare or social programs in the new system....what will replace that?.

since we won't be using dollars, how do people get paid?.

insearchoftruth

Guess no need for Lean Six Sigma on a paradise earth, all will be perfect, no waste, no variation...better get a bucket and squegee!

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Generation change & Michael/Jesus - wife's bible study

by insearchoftruth in

sat in on my wife's bible study tonight, next week the husband of her study sister is coming with her, he is actually the presiding overseer of the congregation.

tried to get me to talk about trinity next week, but the topics will be either generation or michael.. .

the sister pointed to the statement in matthew on generation, i believe it was matthew 24:14 and said that since jesus was talking to his disciples, that equates to the anointed.

insearchoftruth

Thanks all, some pretty good information on generation, but what about Michael/Jesus.

My biggest refuting point is the first chapter of Hebrews where Jesus is compared as so much better than an angel.....any other suggestions?

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Generation change & Michael/Jesus - wife's bible study

by insearchoftruth in

sat in on my wife's bible study tonight, next week the husband of her study sister is coming with her, he is actually the presiding overseer of the congregation.

tried to get me to talk about trinity next week, but the topics will be either generation or michael.. .

the sister pointed to the statement in matthew on generation, i believe it was matthew 24:14 and said that since jesus was talking to his disciples, that equates to the anointed.

insearchoftruth

Thanks for the assistance so far, and thanks for the links to the previous threads, all much appreciated!!!

Here are the scriptures used:

Psalm 37: 9-11 and 29
Psalm 104:5
Proverbs 2:22
2 Peter 3:10 as compared with Genesis 1:11 and 9:11

I believe she switched to the following when asking if we are in the time of the end:
Daniel 2:44
Matthew 24: 3 - 6 (I think) and 14
2 Timothy 3:15

Then she mentioned John 17:3 to see if I would see that Jesus and God are not one (I answered that if one would look at only that one verse, one may come to that conclusion, but one needs to read the Bible for what it says, not just look at individual verses).

I asked about the generation change and she referred to Matthew 24:34 to show why the change was made to be anointed only, since at that time Jesus was speaking to the disciples, I also asked about the changing of the calling of the anointed, I was amazed she was not aware of the change?!?!? And her husband is a PO????

I was also taken back that she asked my wife for permission to not change into a skirt to speak with us about the "Bible". That is so messed up in my mind!!

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Generation change & Michael/Jesus - wife's bible study

by insearchoftruth in

sat in on my wife's bible study tonight, next week the husband of her study sister is coming with her, he is actually the presiding overseer of the congregation.

tried to get me to talk about trinity next week, but the topics will be either generation or michael.. .

the sister pointed to the statement in matthew on generation, i believe it was matthew 24:14 and said that since jesus was talking to his disciples, that equates to the anointed.

insearchoftruth

Sat in on my wife's bible study tonight, next week the husband of her study sister is coming with her, he is actually the presiding overseer of the congregation.

Tried to get me to talk about trinity next week, but the topics will be either generation or Michael.

The sister pointed to the statement in Matthew on generation, I believe it was Matthew 24:14 and said that since Jesus was talking to his disciples, that equates to the anointed. I asked about the heavenly calling being reopened and she said that is not the case, she said that all that is going on is replacements for those of the remnant who have gone astray.

Tonight the discussion was on paradise earth, I had no idea she was going to be studying until I got home, so was not properly prepared, will get a list of the scriptures later, we played bible hopscotch and was never given the time to read in context.....

I believe we will not be 'studying' till next Wednesday, at least that is my intent, so I have some preparation time.

I also think I will be getting copies of the Revelation book (oh joy), Proclaimers and I forget the other, I guess I asked her way too many questions.

One thing I asked her is if paradise earth as a phrase appears in the bible, she flipped to the concordance took a look at a couple of places....I told her no rush, take your time and get me an answer.

I need to be able to get myself in the mindset to be able to ask questions without being overly aggressive, my wife has already let them know I enjoy and am good at research....so at least if I am prepared, should not seem all that terribly bizzare, just can not come in with too large of a stack of apostate literature <grin>

Thanks again for all of your help on this, it has been great!!!

Would like to make the following weeks discussion Blood!!!

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Just heard about a CO

by stillajwexelder in

a relative of mine is storing a cos car at his house (not the wts provided car but the cos own car) .he would not give details but long stor y short - he was expecting to come off the circuit.

refused to give more details.

it appears the rumors about the demise of cos has some substance

insearchoftruth

good answer A@G, you know the speed of light is pretty fast!!! Guess the speed of bs is even faster!

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Some People Enjoy Being Jehovah's Witnesses For Various Reasons

by minimus in

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some individuals truly enjoy being jehovah's witnesses.

i think about those that would have liked to be in acting.

well, having a part in a demonstration in the service meeting or giving a talk in the theocratic ministry school gives one the opportunity to act, be melodramatic, show a little comedic talent,etc.

insearchoftruth

We need to respect people and their wants, desires and likes here, if you want to attack something, attack the idea and not the person.

Stilla is entitled to do what he wants to do and I respect him for his actions.

Mary, I think that the social aspect is why my wife is interested...again!!!

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I like the feel of JWR

by Awakened at Gilead in

i'm signing into this forum... hope more will join soon..... note... this forum includes the "active topics" button so helpful at jwd.

also, the site master is moxie, who has created a number of useful jw videos and a blog about jws and religion.

check out her youtube account at http://www.youtube.com/user/vancoffeechick.

insearchoftruth

Have signed up as well, so far the response time for concerns has been great!!!

I am on four sites, and right now just sort of monitoring for how they are going, what level of respect they keep up and also if the forum stays as helpful to jw issues rather than a huge social site....with what I am going through with my wife, I need some support and encouragement!!

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Only 800 Annointed left? The end is nigh!

by excito-are in

talk on sunday was all about the time of the end before gt.

speaker said many in the world are ignoring the sign that jesus gave.

but we are ready and can tell with all thats going on in the world thats its almost over.

insearchoftruth

I suspect there will be a lot more partakers this year.......wonder what the response will be then, would sure point to the end being further away rather than soooooo soooooooon!