Posts by snarf

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Were Most Of The Elders Dumb--- That You Knew???

by minimus in

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i'd say out of 10 elders, the average "sharp" ones are 2 or 3.

snarf

I wouldn't say "dumb" just ignorant on the realties of the real world.

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YOU KNOW YOUR FROM HOUSTON WHEN....

by blindersoff in

the "farm-to-market" roads have seven lanes.. .

if you want to be a snob about your grocery shopping, you can go to a. randall's flagship, a kroger signature, a rice epicurean, or soon, an heb.

central market to buy bread and milk (but you have to dress up!).

Hello, I am new here...I think!?!?!?

by Kero-kero in

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hello everyone.. i am new to this forum...at least i think i am...i swear that i joined before and left a message...but maybe i was just dreaming.. anyway, i am, what seems to be termed in this forum, a fading jw.

my wife is still a jw and when i try to talk to her she will go on about me becoming an apostate, but i have learnt so much about the wtbts these last few months that fading and leaving is so easy for me now.

i know that there is a lot of hate and false stuff said about the wtbts but also a lot of things are true, like the famous ngo business and being a shareholder of a company that produces parts that are used in weapons.

snarf

Welcome Kero-kero! Depression is very common in the Org. most the people I knew, including myself, suffered from some sort of depression. Be good to your wife and show her through example that the life outside the witnesses doesn't mean that you will be "wordly". You are still the same loving husband, just without all the interuptions that witnesses pose on your personal time together. Be strong, through your examples, I am sure she will come around.

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Reminder of Dub life

by snarf in

i haven't posted for a while, but i have been lurking, morning sickness was kicking my butt.

anyway, i was out running errands yesterday and ran into an ex friend who is a jehovah's witness.

i forgot how self centered some of them are.

snarf

I haven't posted for a while, but I have been lurking, morning sickness was kicking my butt. Anyway, I was out running errands yesterday and ran into an ex friend who is a Jehovah's Witness. I forgot how self centered some of them are. She went on and on about her life and whenever I would try and share something about mine, she would cut me off and turn the convo. back to her. She was just leaving the WIC clinic at the local Methodist Church in town and complaining how she was gonna finally start having to buy milk for her family after not buying it for over 8 years. I asked her about any new changes in the congregation, she told me of everyone, including herself, who was getting ready to go to Louisiana to help with the JW hurricane victims. I guess it just all pissed me off. Complaing about government benefits that she recieves when her and her family blows tons of money on extra food luxury items that I can't even afford and I am pretty well off, complaining about benefits that she should be grateful to recieve, especially since she doesn't involve herself with governmental or political issues, but finds a way to recieve the handouts. Then to travel across the country for nothing more than personal glorification at the same time questioning how she would provide for her own family.

She then turned the convo. back to the Kingdom Hall and how everyone missed me and my family, and so I took the opportunity to ask, why then was I not invited to the memorial? Why had my teacher of 3 years not even attempted to contact me? She explained that they were all just hurt when I compared the Org. to the Catholic church. I explained that I was going through a tremendous blow in my life at that time, one which made me really question the Org. and I felt justified by my question due to the fact that the Congo. was protecting a known child predator as well as my ex Jw husband who I had to get a one year restraining order from, just so me and my family would be safe.And why the Witnesses only help those of their kind, while claiming to be the religion of love..God is love...and how you could claim to make a good witness to the community when you are percieved as a selfish religion that only helps those within the religion and no one else. She suddenly had to get going ....no answers of course, then abrubtly left. Just rubbed me the wrong way, so I thought I would vent. Thanks for leting me get this off my chest.....

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divorce

by deda in

if a spouse has been unfaithful and a legal divorce has been finalized is the marriage over in the church's eyes?

i've been told by the elders that i must witness the adultry or provide two witnesses that can speak to the adultry.

my ex-spouse will never confess to his past or current sexual acts.

snarf

Are you a witness in good standing? If you are you should be able to write a letter to the elders stating that your ex has committed adultery and will not come forward and confess, as he is not a witness.You can find the info on the watchtower library cd under adultery. If you are not in good standing, I am sorry but you will have to put yourself through some serious mind games to prove the adultery, because finding two "reputable" witnesses to the act is virtually impossible unless you actually have a picture of him in the act with someone else. Many people can be discredited if they are not jehovah's witnesses. What you need to ask yourself is, whose approval are you seeking? Jehovah's or the elders? Do you not think that God has seen what he has done and needs you to prove this? The only one you are accountable for on judgment day is yourself. If you know for a fact, I would just move on, or else you risk your mental stability in trying to prove someone elses wrongdoings.

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READ THIS-WE'RE BEING SHUT DOWN

by kittyeatzjdubs in

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as you people don't know who i am or what i can do, i'm going to tell you a little something, i'm having this site closed for breeding religious hatred, believe me i can do it i will be doing this someone better register .

jeehover's come to shut us down.

so i guess this will be the las time i talk to you guys....it's been nice!.

snarf

Unclebruce......you are a riot!!! Awesome.

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READ THIS - YOU'RE SO FUNNY

by jgnat in

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look at meeee!

but you don't worry.

my ego is too flashy to check if you responded or not.

snarf

By the way, the clown thing was awesome..lol

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READ THIS - YOU'RE SO FUNNY

by jgnat in

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look at meeee!

but you don't worry.

my ego is too flashy to check if you responded or not.

snarf

Almost to page 3 , I am trying to help ya out here... good luck.

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Advice on Separating & Divorce

by damselfly in

we have a few posters on here that are going through a divorce or a separation.

in order to respect their privacy i will not be naming them in this thread.

do you have advice to give them?

snarf

Oh yes, I forgot, make sure you take care of yourself, get a new hairdo, go to a day spa, buy a new outfit, take a trip. I took my daughter on a trip to Maine, got as far away as I could from Iowa and still be in the states, it was awesome. We reconnected, saw the ocean for the first time together, ate lunch on the beach and did whatever we wanted, she still talks about the trip, and for me, it made me realize I could enjoy the newly single life by taking those trips I always wanted to take, I truly felt free. Also, there is nothing wrong with using some good ole' medications to help "take the edge" off the trauma, you need your sleep and you still have to be able to cope with day to day life. I was prescribed some light anti-depressants and some sleep pills to help get through that time, and they really helped. There is nothing worse than being wide awake with emotions at 3 in the morning.

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Advice on Separating & Divorce

by damselfly in

we have a few posters on here that are going through a divorce or a separation.

in order to respect their privacy i will not be naming them in this thread.

do you have advice to give them?

snarf

I found reading alot of books on how to get over the realtionship helped, also music, I would make cd's, some filled with "hate music" if I was having a bad dayand some with "easy listening" for good days, and some with "old music" from my school age days to take me back to the memories before the ex came into the picture. Friends are very important during this time, and if you have kids, dive into their lives. Reassure them that you BOTH love them and use the extra time you have to do something with them, go to the park, take them swimming, see a movie. On the lawyer note, you want a lawyer that won't let you get screwed, but if raking the ex over the coals is not on your agenda, make sure you inform the lawyer that it is not your intention and you want to be fair.