Posts by dozy

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Can Elders Voluntarily Resign?

by NotFormer in

an elder with half a brain (and they must exist 🧐) is going to see the writing on the wall with the way the wt is manoeuvring them into taking the fall over csa cases.

can an elder in good standing step down with no consequences, official or social?.

dozy

Yes - they can resign -I just said I had a few issues and needed to spend more time with my family. Some of the other elders tried to get me to change my mind but by then I was absolutely PIMO and knew it wasn't the truth.

no-zombie is correct - almost overnight my status had changed from someone always involved in the meetings , giving talks at assemblies etc to zero - I wasn't even doing microphones! Our social circle changed - suddenly the occasional meals or drinks with other elders stopped and the rest of the cong viewed me with some detachment. I remember sitting in an incredibly boring meeting hearing the GB being venerated and wondering what on earth I was still doing there. That was my last meeting (other than a Memorial as my wife was still attending.)

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So, 60 Years Ago

by titch in

so, folks, 60 years ago, starting on september 1st, i believe, we, local witnesses in southern california, had the "privilege" of attending the "around the world assembly", at, of all places, the rose bowl, in pasadena.

(i think that it was an 8-day assembly) i was 9 years old then, almost ready to start 4th grade.

so, was anyone else, on this site, at that assembly?

dozy

Ironically probably the one thing I miss most about the Org are those large stadium conventions. There seemed to be something special about them , with the big tent "cities" etc.

https://www.britishpathe.com/asset/103175/

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More than 17 years of service to the XJW community!

by Nathan Natas in

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i want to take a moment to salute rick fearon, an "apostate" near boston massachusetts usa who more than 17 years ago started the sixscreens telenetwork on youtube.

you can find it here: https://www (dot) youtube (dot) com/ (at) araretreat/streams.. like our benevolent host simon green here at jehovahs-witness.com, rick has not done his great work for his own financial enrichment or to collect followers for himself, as some xjw grifters have done and continue to do.. saturdays and sundays are the busy days at six screens, with call-in programs like:.

* jw world news.

dozy

Bring back Johnny the Bethelite!

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Anthony Morris the III has been FOUND

by Terry in

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note: photos can be found on the blue envelope channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nakezkhqbmtony and susan morris are living in lumberton, north carolina.

a real estate document on the robeson county website is filed:.

the religious order of jehovah's witnesses has provided a "life estate" for them.they can live in this townhouse until they are deceased or choose to move away and in either case the ownership becomes entirely the property of jehovah's witnesses.

dozy

Such a contrast to the numerous Bethelites kicked out at short notice with absolutely zero. The Society certainly is basically a real estate flipping business nowadays - doubtless in buying 2 units with cash so promptly they got a significant discount from the developer. They will be assuming Tony , with his obesity and (possibly) alcohol problems will not be staying long in the property and they will be quietly sold , with the usual tax free profits.

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S Club 7 star died of NATURAL causes.....

by BoogerMan in

“a spokesperson from dorset coroner's office told the bbc that due to the nature of his death there would be no inquest.

no further details were given on cause of death by the coroner.” https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65633872.

no "further" details were given?

dozy

It's not exactly unusual for pop stars to die in their 40's or 50's. In addition , this guy went bankrupt a few years ago and his life pretty much fell apart. It's sad - but I guess he enjoyed his time in the limelight when younger.

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'church elders are told to report any allegations of child sexual abuse to the authorities immediately'

by was a new boy in

'the spokesperson also said that church elders are told to report any allegations of child sexual abuse to the authorities immediately, even if there is only one complainant.'.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/rebekah-vardy-sexually-abused-child-jehovahs-witnesses/.

is this true?

dozy

There were actually at least 3 untruths / misleading statements given to Ch4:

(1) Constant use of the term "so-called shunning" despite the fact that the Org has often used the work "shunning" in connection with how to treat DF/DA people eg Thus "disfellowshiping" is what Jehovah's Witnesses appropriately call the expelling and subsequent shunning of such an unrepentant wrongdoer." Watchtower 1981 Sep 15 p.22. This Watchtower is regularly cited as recently at 2021 / 2022.

(2) Reference that elders are instructed to call the authorities on any case of child abuse. This isn't true ( see phone call to branch above)

(3) Implication that shunning of DF/DA is an individual action. It isn't - it is insisted by the Org. The elders text book makes clear that anyone associating with DFd people / family members will be treated judicially.

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Just read that Carl Olof Jonsson died yesterday

by slimboyfat in

for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?

he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.

the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.

dozy

For me it was when the Society realised (in 1943) there was no zero year that to keep 1914 they simply changed the destruction of Jerusalem from 606 to 607, with absolutely no evidence to support either year.

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Just read that Carl Olof Jonsson died yesterday

by slimboyfat in

for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?

he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.

the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.

dozy

Sad to hear.

Copies of some of Jonsson's correspondence with the GB is here https://www.mentesbereanas.info/en/letterscarlolofenglish/

Initially they seemed reasonably responsive , but as the correspondence developed they became increasingly dismissive and even somewhat aggressive in anybody daring to question the "Faithful Slave". A pattern any of us who have written letters to the Branch will be familiar with.

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Young "Elders"

by XBEHERE in

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ever since the annual meeting last october and the letter to bodies of elders stating that "exceptional young men perhaps in their early 20's could qualify for appointment as elders.." it even states this in the updated elders manual!

have any of you pimo's, pimq's, or those on here with family/friends still in hear of any young men being appointed as elders yet?

i am talking 21, 22, 23, 24 etc.

dozy

I was reading on anothet forum about a 22 year old being appointed as an elder. It does seem a bit ridiculous.

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Been years since Ive gone - should I bother with a letter?

by BeaverEater in

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sig other is half assed still in, one family member is in... its been years... wondering if i should just let it be or just call up hq and say i resign... i will be pissed if they announce shit at the kh, though i dont even remember the last one i went to... lol.

for me, its none of anyone elses business... thoughts?.

dozy

Unless you still have some tangible connection with the congregation ( via family or whatever) then I wouldn't bother and just pat yourself on the back for having faded without being DFd.

Congregation personnel does change surprisingly quickly. I went to a funeral recently in my old KH (left about 10 years ago) and only recognised less than 25% of the congregation. Most of the people I knew had died , were sick or elderly, moved out or left the Org.

I remember when I was in and an elder we received a long , rambling letter from a guy who apparently had used to attend 15 years or so before. Only one of the elders could vaguely remember him. As hardly anybody knew him we just decided to "file" the letter (essentially in the bin) and decided not to make an announcement unless he followed up or attended as what was the point of announcing a DA from someone who nobody basically knew.